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semar 9th April 2009 01:30 PM

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hello

who can tell me what type of swort this is and the region

regards semar

Henk 9th April 2009 07:29 PM

Penai, Sulawesi, Toraja.

semar 9th April 2009 07:38 PM

hallo Henk bedankt wanneer kom je weer eens richt limburg

gr semar

David 9th April 2009 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by semar
hallo Henk bedankt wanneer kom je weer eens richt limburg

gr semar

Forgive my ignorance. :o I realize that you are thanking Henk for something, but can we keep it in English please. Bedankt. ;) :)

VVV 10th April 2009 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Henk
Penai, Sulawesi, Toraja.

In this case I disagree with you even if I maybe can guess why you think so.

I would say Golok, Java, Sundanese.
This Golok-version is sometimes also found on S Sulawesi (Bugis, not Toraja) and on E Sumatra.

Michael

karset 10th April 2009 01:54 AM

yes, im agre with VVV,
From Sunda, west side land of java,my homeland. i can see the pamor is "nggajih", one of pajajaran type.We call that type "gobang" with style
" beuteung simeut".
"gobang" mean long golok or pedang, "beutueng" is stomach, "simuet" is a kind of grasshoper.

semar 10th April 2009 08:09 AM

thank you guys for the info is this a rare type to find in the book of zoneveld
are no picteurs of this type ??

regards semar

Henk 10th April 2009 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by semar
hallo Henk bedankt wanneer kom je weer eens richt limburg

gr semar

David,

Semar is thanking me indeed (bedankt) and it is an invitation with the question when I will visit him again in the county Limburg.

In his kind reaction he probably forgot the language is english on the forum, even among Dutchies.......

Amuk Murugul 10th April 2009 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by semar
thank you guys for the info is this a rare type to find in the book of zoneveld
are no picteurs of this type ??

regards semar

Hullo everybody,

If every variant of the golok were to be documented in a book, it would indeed be a Herculean effort. Why, even just in Tatar Soenda, traditionally stretching from the Soenda Straits to TjiPamali (Brebes, Central Java province), there are innumerable variants of the Golok Soenda. Sometimes, the same type will carry different names in different areas, while other times, the same name will be attached to different types in different areas. There is always a danger in trying to 'pigeon-hole' things too much and/or of becoming too dependent on documentation.

mvg
Wilujeng wargi Karang Setra

Maurice 10th April 2009 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by semar
hello

who can tell me what type of swort this is and the region

regards semar

Hi Hans,

I have found 2 similar West Javanese swords in the database of the Tropenmuseum Amsterdam. They were both collected before 1924.

Kind regards and till next week :)
Maurice

karset 13th April 2009 03:08 PM

sometime we(sundanese) call that type "Sumedangan" mean with Sumedang Style, but theres no source/ book or else,,,,that mention it.

Amuk Murugul


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