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cannonmn 28th January 2009 01:37 PM

Solo kraton kris inscription
 
I've been told the Kris pictured is a kraton kris from Solo, that would have been carried by a palace guard. I would like to have the inscription translated. Also what if any is the significance of the wreath around the inscription? Is there anything else you can tell me about it? I bought it in Jakarta 38 years ago. I know the handle is on backwards. Thanks!

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b6...ianKris003.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b6...ianKris007.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b6...ianKris014.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b6...ianKris016.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b6...ianKris023.jpg

David 28th January 2009 02:52 PM

Sorry, i can't help you with a translation, but someone else probably can. I think it is doubtful that this was a kraton keris. It is also obvious from your pictures that the pendok with the inscription does not fit this sheath and is not original to it.

cannonmn 28th January 2009 03:04 PM

Thanks. I thought the difference in fit between metal and wood was shrinkage over the years, but you've seen a lot more of them than I have, so I have to go with your info.

David 28th January 2009 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cannonmn
Thanks. I thought the difference in fit between metal and wood was shrinkage over the years, but you've seen a lot more of them than I have, so I have to go with your info.

That would be an awful lot of shrinkage, i would think. :shrug:
Keris are often sold to tourists in Jawa with the story that they were once used in the palace. Best to buy the keris, not the story. It's still an old and authentic keris, i just doubt it has the history that the seller laid claims to. :)

cannonmn 28th January 2009 04:53 PM

Thanks, I'd like to know any details regarding what it actually is. I didn't know anything about it when I paid the equivalent of $10. in the antique shop in Jakarta, nor did the seller have anything to say. The info I mentioned above came from an American (former NY) antiques dealer/collector who lives in Bali. He posted on this board over a year ago regarding his view of Keris vs. Filipino edged weapons, but only for one or two postings. He means well; can be a bit opinionated at times.

ferrylaki 5th February 2009 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cannonmn
Thanks, I'd like to know any details regarding what it actually is. I didn't know anything about it when I paid the equivalent of $10. in the antique shop in Jakarta, nor did the seller have anything to say. The info I mentioned above came from an American (former NY) antiques dealer/collector who lives in Bali. He posted on this board over a year ago regarding his view of Keris vs. Filipino edged weapons, but only for one or two postings. He means well; can be a bit opinionated at times.


the inscription says : 1827


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