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Scandinavian cutlass M 1801 for Chasseurs / Hunters
HUGGARE dansk?, m/1801 för jägare
Scandinavian cutlass M 1801 for Chasseurs / Hunters / Cazadores Curved blade. The similar M 1777 had a straight blade.. This is the first one I have seen with a curved blade. Swedish, Norwegian, Danish? FYP http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...standwscab.jpg http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...iquetstand.jpg http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...riquethilt.jpg http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...urersmark2.jpg |
HUGGARE dansk?, m/1801 för jägare translates (from Swedish) to CUTLASS danish?, m/1801 for jaegers.
With no m/1801 or m/1777 shown in Berg's Svenska Blankvapen, nor shown in the exhibition at the Army Museum in Stockholm, it'd seem quite unlikely that it's Swedish. |
The danish have a version called the M1801 Hirschfanger, a deer knife, for jaeger/chasseur troops. But their blade is straight.
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Hi Kisak,
It was me who added the dansk? qualifier, because I believed it was danish from the very outset. Then again, the danish M 1777/1801s have straight blades. Have you seen any like this with a short curved briquet blade? Best BTW, I may be auctioning some svenska klingan soon. I'm reducing the size of my collection. M Quote:
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Ok, the text read very much like an
The hilt is quite different, but the blade does seem like it might be of the same "family" as the Swedish infantry cutlass m/1748 and it's descendants (various variants of it seems to have been used well into the 19th century, in the case of the infantry I'm under the impression that it was kept around until the m/1848 fascine knife took over). The picture with the hirschfänger on the left has an m/1748 in the middle. The picture with the broken saber to the left has a cutlass m/1803 for infantry troopers in the middle, and cutlass m/1808 for infantry troopers on the right. |
Hi Kisak, Your m/1748 and m/1808 look like m/1853s to me. They have the knuckleguard screwed to the pommel.
What's the difference? I have both the purported dansk m/1801 and a couple svensk m/1856s {HUGGAREsvensk, m/1856 (förändring av huggare m/1748)}, and the blades are of different length and width. Plus the latter has a thin fuller close to the spine. These is mine also: http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...gareM17482.jpg http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...gareM17483.jpg http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...gareM17484.jpg http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/CIMG1697.jpg http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/CIMG1698.jpg Quote:
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It seems that the m/1748 and m/1808 are basically the same. Berg doens't mention the m/1808 at all, but judging from the sign at the army museum, the Swedish army ceased with the cutlasses in 1806, only to start with them again in 1808. A number of new ones were made for this, and these new ones got labelled as m/1808.
The m/1856 is an m/1748 which has had the blade reshaped a bit with a pointier tip. |
What about the screwed pommels and knuckleguards? Did the 1748 have them?
I did notice a certain difference between the two I own, the shape of the quillons, the depth and width of the fuller, and the width and length of the blades... Sorry to bother you so much! : ). Best M |
The m/1748 had the knuckleguard screwed to the pommel, yes.
And as for all the questions, I'm just glad that I can be of some help. |
Hi Kisak,
I have a sword identical to the "broken saber" in your picture. What's its ID..? Best Manuel |
The pictures are from the Army Museum in Stockholm, and according to them it's an m/1775-1807 for troopers at Savolax' light infantry regiment. It's a "modification model", where the inner guards on the old m/1775 sabers were ground off to reduce wear&tear on the uniforms. The m/1775 in turn seems to be identical to the m/1770 for Savolax' jaegers on foot.
You can get a better look at an m/1770 or m/1775 here: http://www.auktionsverket.se/dbkatal...007-12-10&anr= |
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