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kronckew 13th July 2008 09:22 PM

Odd knife
 
haven't a clue what this is ,but i'm a sucker for stag hilts, 65 cm. length over all, grip held on by two rivets, thin 2mm blade.
http://i8.ebayimg.com/08/i/000/fc/0b/ad25_1.JPG
for under a tenner, thought it'd be worth a gamble to see what it was.
should make a nice garden machete if nothing else...
will see what it looks like derusted and cleaned up a tad.
reminds me of a home-made khyber knife or a big chef's...

katana 13th July 2008 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew
...reminds me of a home-made khyber knife or a big chef's...

Hi Kronckew,
great minds...and all that. Followed this one.When I first saw the pic I thought re-hilted Kyhber but, after e-mailing seller the lack of 'T' spine and the 2mm blade 'lessened my enthusiasm'. I wondered whether it was a re-shaped machete blade :shrug: I hope its something good :)

Regards David

Atlantia 14th July 2008 12:39 AM

LOL, looks like we were all watching that one!
I decided it was a late 19thC BIG butchers knife rehandled.
But I didn't ask the questions, and from your info received it could well be a number of things all much more interesting. I'll be dead interested to see some good pics when you get it!
Hope its a goody.

:-)

kronckew 14th July 2008 06:06 AM

ah, well, we'll see but i have low expectations. i'd seen it a few days ago & stuck a tenner in my auto-sniper justincase as i was going to a barby last nite. didn't see the 2mm thingy till i came back last nite. if i'd seen the thickness i may have saved the bid for something else.

the adrenalin of the chase, the highs of expectation, the lows of disappointment and sometimes the thrill of victory - the joys of ebay.

M ELEY 14th July 2008 06:18 AM

Hmmm...one of those 'could be from anywhere' type-knives. :rolleyes:
The blade did strike me as Khyber, but the thinness & lack of bolster pretty much rules that out. The huge size of it and thinnes of blade rules out the typical bowies. The blade shape reminds me of the Chinese ox-bow types (sorry, don't know the correct name), but I can't ever recall one with stag hilts? The Scots loved stag handles, but their weapons didn't look like this? Stag hilts were popular on gambler's dirks, but nothing this big! Doesn't resemble any Spanish colonial machetes/espada, too big for a bread knife. Soooo...if I had to guess, I would say this piece might be part of a hunting trousse. Many of the knives were oversized, such as this and typically decked out in stag fixtures. Some were plain and some, quite decorated. They came with a variety of tiny knives, skewers, forks, etc, to prepare the kill.

kronckew 14th July 2008 06:28 AM

hunting trousse, that would be nice, i could try to hunt up matching bits.

as long as it's not an asparagus knife ;)

kronckew 15th July 2008 01:57 PM

well. it's arrived

unmarked 55cm blade, 2mm thick, 10 cm grip, 5cm wide where blade enters grip, 2.5cm wide where tip curvature starts. tang is 3in. long x 1in. wide approx. fitted to a slot in the stag grip & curved to match. held by two steel rivets. blade is light feeling and flexible, possibly made from an old saw? i can see a homesteader recycling from on hand stuff and hanging it near the door for night visitors. feels very machete-like but the taper makes the point less heavy and it feels lighter.

here it is as arrived
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...all001_DCE.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...all002_DCE.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...all003_DCE.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...all004_DCE.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...all005_DCE.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...all006_DCE.jpg

off for a quick clean and oiling then adding to the pile.

katana 15th July 2008 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew
as long as it's not an asparagus knife ;)


Am I ever going to forget ;) :D :D

Atlantia 15th July 2008 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by katana
Am I ever going to forget ;) :D :D

Oh come on!
For the benefit of newer members who don't know the full 'asparagus knife' story???

We're all sitting comfortably :-)

tell!!!

Rick 15th July 2008 03:11 PM

Use the search engine for the whole sordid tale ... ;) :D

Typing 'Asparagus Knife' will get you there; the bottom thread is the one you want .

katana 15th July 2008 04:10 PM

Thanks Rick :rolleyes: :p :D

Atlantia 15th July 2008 05:08 PM

LOL!!
Its the kind of mistake anyone could make ;)

M ELEY 15th July 2008 09:04 PM

Nice piece with original patina. OK, not a trousse piece, but NOT an asparagus knife either! :D The handle/hilt not quite a perfect fit for the tang, so probably replaced in its working life. So it still must remain in that fuzzy catagory of 'old sword', but a nice one. Could be a big old Confederate bowie/sword (yes, they had some this length), could be a Southwestern Colonial sword/machete type, etc,etc. Nice find.

katana 15th July 2008 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by M ELEY
Nice piece with original patina. OK, not a trousse piece, but NOT an asparagus knife either! :D .

Ah...I see, lets 'pick on' David :p :D I must admit I was tempted to bid, but the 2mm thickness of the blade put me off. Glad its not a 'silly' gardening implement though :)

As to the Asparagus spear, it has a 'pride of place' on my computer desk ....just in case a renagade vegetable attacks ;)

Regards David

Atlantia 15th July 2008 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by katana
Ah...I see, lets 'pick on' David :p :D I must admit I was tempted to bid, but the 2mm thickness of the blade put me off. Glad its not a 'silly' gardening implement though :)

As to the Asparagus spear, it has a 'pride of place' on my computer desk ....just in case a renagade vegetable attacks ;)

Regards David

LOL, I kinda liked the picture of you opening the letter with it!

asomotif 15th July 2008 10:31 PM

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possibly made from an old saw?
Yep, this looks a lot like the old saws that my father in law just refuses to throw away. :p

But maybe with some cleaning , could be wootz :confused: :rolleyes:


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