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VANDOO 29th August 2007 01:06 AM

GAURD YOUR IRON FINCE FINALS
 
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A UNIQUE ITEM JUST CLOSED ON EBAY# 290152850509 IT WOULD APPEAR SOMEONE HAS LOST THE POINTED FINAL ON THEIR IRON FENCE. :D

Matt Splatt 29th August 2007 01:25 AM

that's just weird!?

kronckew 29th August 2007 06:55 AM

opens up a whole new line for collectors. as there has been little of interest on ebay recently, and that little at high prices, maybe the new line can offer us relief.

i remember watching the kirk douglas 'spartacus' movie where they use a section of spear finialed fence as an impromptu phalanx of pikes while escaping, so mebbe these can properly be discussed here as 'weapons'. it also brings back memories of gomez addams sharpening the finials on his fence.

finials:
http://www.steelfence.co.uk/pictures..._selection.gif

here's one i'm particularly fond of:
http://www.nortonmetals.com/images/FECCE22712.jpg

note that there was a patriotic fervour during ww2 to supply the military need for metals. miles of cast iron fences were torn up and sent in as scrap to feed the war effort. while most of the metal was of inferior quality & never used, it made people feel good to be contributing. what wonders went into the scrap heap i wonder.

p.s - re the original 'tombak' in post 1, the scabbard is probably worth more than the 'blade' - nice wood.

A. G. Maisey 29th August 2007 11:53 PM

I reckon this is out of Central Jawa.

The wood and workmanship is right for there, and there are lots of old Dutch buildings , some even now still have old fences with either forged or cast finials.

FenrisWolf 31st August 2007 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey
I reckon this is out of Central Jawa.

The wood and workmanship is right for there, and there are lots of old Dutch buildings , some even now still have old fences with either forged or cast finials.

Rather an amusing evolution, though. The decorative finials recall a time when sharpened spear heads were mounted on the top of much higher walls to help discourage the revolting peasants from, well, revolting. So here we have a cast iron finial with no real function beyond decoration being converted to its original function, a weapon. Not a very good weapon, mind you, but I imagine having it stiffly thrust into the belly or ribs would get one's attention.... :D

Fenris

tom hyle 1st September 2007 01:58 AM

Of course those fence finials are based on real spears, in greater or lesser degree; do we have reason to think this a casting? What's up with that crack? Does anyone here own this piece? Can we get a feild report?

Bill M 1st September 2007 12:32 PM

Obviously a nice little push dagger. ;) No doubt it would cause wound trauma! :rolleyes:

I agree with kronkew, I like the wood also.

Battara 1st September 2007 07:39 PM

The wood looks like Timoho wood from Bali. Rare stuff now.

A. G. Maisey 1st September 2007 11:00 PM

Timoho, yes. From Bali? Who knows? But unlikely, very, very unlikely.Timoho comes from other places as well, and the workmanship of this cover bears Javanese characteristics.

Yes, these fence finials can definitely cause severe injury. I can recall several cases of accidental impalation---is that a word?--- and going back 45-50 years the police in a major north-west country town in my state in Australia , had the reputation of lifting inebriated kooris above the townhall fence ---which had these type of finials--- and dropping them onto it. At least one death was attributed to this action; nothing was ever proven, of course.

tom hyle 6th September 2007 04:25 AM

ouch!


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