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brekele 10th June 2007 08:31 AM

Dapur and Tangguh?
 
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Hi all, Good morning.
Could you Guys please teach/tell me about DAPUR and TANGGUH of this Keris?
Thank you :)
brekele.

Newsteel 13th June 2007 03:00 AM

Hi brekele,

Pardon me but this looks like a modified piece. Or shall I called this keris owah-owahan. Where a real old keris has been modified or changed way out from its dapur pakem (blueprint design).

Sorry, not possible to identify the tangguh.

ganjawulung 13th June 2007 08:59 AM

Brekele,

Idem dito with Newsteel. Your keris is old blade, but modified. Look at the proportion, a little bit too short isn't it?

Ganjawulung

brekele 13th June 2007 10:04 AM

newsteel, thanks for your informations. even until now i stil dont know owah-owahan means in keris knowlegde? i only can guess.
ganjawulung, yes...it is true that the keris is a bit too short.

ganjawulung 13th June 2007 10:42 AM

Keris Besutan or Owah-owahan
 
Brekele,

"Owah-owahan" what Newsteel said, is a specific term in Javanese keris to call such certain actions of modificating old kerises. It can be just crafting the original blade with "krawangan" (carving through the blade) or even change the form -- for instance: from original straight keris to keris with luks, via heat treatment like making new kerises, hammering with wood hammer on hot old keris blade to make luks.

It is different with Solonese (Surakarta) term of "mbesut" or "besutan". If someone "mbesut keris" or someone's keris is a "keris besutan", it means that the keris has been beautified without changing the form. In Solo, you may "mbesut" old kerises which much corrosion to make it more beatiful. (People of Yogyakarta, the neighbouring city, usually keep the keris as it is, although much corrosion or damage. Different habitude with Solo).

That is what I know...

Ganjawulung

brekele 17th June 2007 06:18 PM

Thank YOU Ganjawulung :)

cahaya 18th June 2007 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by brekele
Thank YOU Ganjawulung :)

Thank you too Brekele, for showing your keris

cahaya


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