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Spearcollector 1st October 2006 05:33 PM

African short spear.
 
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Hello,
I'm a new member.
Can you help me with this short african spear.
the spear is 116 cm long.
I think it's 19 century.
I have looked for more information about this one, but I can't find it.
I would like to know more about.
Thanks.

Lew 1st October 2006 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spearcollector
Hello,
I'm a new member.
Can you help me with this short african spear.
the spear is 116 cm long.
I think it's 19 century.
I have looked for more information about this one, but I can't find it.
I would like to know more about.
Thanks.

Welcome Spearcollector

Well this is how I see it. Your spear seems to be a hybrid the shaft is Kuba but the head seems to be a later addition from another spear. It still is a nice example though. Here is a similar one of mine.

Lew

Freddy 1st October 2006 08:27 PM

Welcome to the forum, Spearcollector.

Lew is right when stating that this spear is a 'marriage'. the shaft looks much older than the blade. I haven't seen this type of spearblade, yet. I'm still young, though :p

But, Lew, the shaft is not Kuba. It's a typical shaft used by the Ngbandi, Bati and/or Benge living in northwestern Congo.

Here is a Ngbandi spear in my collection :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...dja-W11-04.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...04-detail1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...04-detail2.jpg

Tim Simmons 1st October 2006 08:34 PM

I wonder if this is not a marriage between Central Africa/Congo and west or east Africa. I am taking a guess at perhaps areas west and north to the Sahara.

Spearcollector 1st October 2006 09:07 PM

African short spear
 
Thanks for the reactions.
The spear blade looks younger because it is cleaned.
The shaft is a lot shorter than a normal ngbandi spear.
I'm very sure that the shaft and blade belongs together.
Maybe I must ask it to the African museum of tervuren.
Thanks anyway.

Flavio 1st October 2006 09:18 PM

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I had a short ngbandi spear, now sold, that was long 120 cm.

Spearcollector 1st October 2006 09:29 PM

Is this one also a Ngbandi spear???
 
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Hi,
The second and the third spear on this photo, are they ngbandi spears?
You can also see the short spear.
This is a very small part of my spear collection.

Mapico1 1st October 2006 09:54 PM

Ngbandi rules
 
Hi G and welcome!
To me 1,2,3,4,6,8,10 are Ngbandi spears or related.
5 is Lega,7 is Boa,9 is Lokele,last seems Saka.
Small one......let's leave that one open for a while..... ;)

Lew 1st October 2006 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mapico1
Hi G and welcome!
To me 1,2,3,4,6,8,10 are Ngbandi spears or related.
5 is Lega,7 is Boa,9 is Lokele,last seems Saka.
Small one......let's leave that one open for a while..... ;)

I must tip my hat to you and Freddy I am still learning.

Lew

Tim Simmons 2nd October 2006 06:52 AM

I take it all back :o . Seeing then all together like that I am sure its a good one. It just at first glance looked a little "unbalanced ?" I am sure a spear was a personal thing. The blade may have Saka influences. We have no idea what the users requirements were. Remember-

"there is always something new coming out of Africa" Pliny. :cool:


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