Iron hilt of talwar and piso pedang
 

Colleagues, there is a problem of how to distinguish Indian iron talwar hilts with bowl-shaped pommels from similar hilts of piso pedang. Besides the size of the bowled-pommel itself there must be differences in manufacturing technology. Unfortunately, I do not have either of such items at hand.
What do you think, can the form of place where the pommel is attached to the grip serve as such a mark: an ellipse in the case of an Indian handle and a circle in the case of an Indonesian one?

I had one but with a Napoleonic blade.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=long+piso

Tim, thanks a lot! I suppose this place has ellipse form like all (?) Indonesian bowl-shaped hilt.