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francantolin 22nd May 2024 04:54 PM

Sword with Hussar blade + niello. Russian ? Austro Hungarian ?
 
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Good day dear members,

What about this one ?
Maybe some of you has seen it in an auction.
Older blade and later nielloed silver mounts ?

Glad if someone has already seen the monogram
( AB ?? )

fernando 23rd May 2024 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by francantolin (Post 291160)
...Glad if someone has already seen the monogram ( AB ?? )

The crown over the monogram meaning this sword belonged to a noble person ?

francantolin 23rd May 2024 04:09 PM

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Hello. thank you Fernando
Yes, sometimes...
That's why I asked if someone already saw this one :

It can be a militar common monogram like the Prussian swords with Wilhelm II empereror monogram on the hilt(1)

Or rare like the russian hussars impérial guard monogram(2)

Or a personal-single nobleman monogram (3)

Victrix 23rd May 2024 06:52 PM

I think it’s one of those 19thC Hungarian magnate sabres. It was an age of nationalist revival so noble magnates were expected to attend state functions in Hussar-looking dress and carrying a personalised hussar sabre, preferably with a heirloom blade.

francantolin 24th May 2024 06:34 AM

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Thank you Victrix for your reply,
Hungary is a good origin for these sword with mixed oriental and european influences.
I found 2 steel-iron crossguards with similar shape and foliage in 19th french hunting daggers.
I read they call it ''garde de croisé'' / ''crusader''-''templar' crossguard.
Maybe someone has a sword crossguard like this one ?

Kind regards

Victrix 25th May 2024 11:14 AM

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It’s typically Hungarian when the crossguard ends are wider than near the grip. Don’t know if it’s related to similar effect on the Slovakian cross (Slovakia was part of the Hungarian kingdom pre-1918). See picture below how a scene at Buda castle might look pre-1914. The Hungarian nobles dressed in national costume and carried sabres. Can’t see what the monogram shows but I assume since the sabre is private it should be the owner’s monogram and he must be a noble because of the crown. I suppose the sabre could also be for a private castle/estate guard since I read somewhere that gilt/brass was reserved for imperial and royal use (regular armed forces).

francantolin 25th May 2024 07:10 PM

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Thank's a lot Victrix !
For my part I found the banner of the Order of Dobrzyn 1216 or Dobrin in Poland , a knights noblemen brotherhood created for protect cistercian missionaries against pagans tribes in their mission of evangelisation.
similar crossguard shape too.
Old flag 😅


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