Katars with more hand defence PIC
 

I'd love to see any pics of Katars with more hand Defense than the standard
I'd like to know if there's anything like an "armoured katar". By this, I mean a katar which is either built into a gauntlet , or simply a katar which defenses the back of the hand AND the writ

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You will find katars like what you describe on South Indian examples.

It sounds like you're describing a "hooded katar" (see below), or possibly even a pata gauntlet sword (last pic).

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As already noted, the 'hooded' katars are primarily associated with examples from 17th-18th century Vijayanagara in S.India . The early examples had wide triangular shaped blades that were notably channeled in a distinct fashion and it is believed the so called 'gauntlet' sword was of course associated and developed contemporarily.

The transverse grip convention is distinctive to the katar, and we have long discussed the potential origins of the form, with Jens Nordlund and Brian Issac, as well as Robert Elgood ("Hindu Arms and Ritual", 2004) being the foremost authorities on this.

The katar was actually more of a slashing weapon, and as the form diffused west and north into Mahratta, Rajput and Mughal regions, along with the advent of European blade availability, the thickened point aligned with the thrust brought the idea of this being a thrusting weapon. The Mahratta however disdained the thrust and examples remained in use as slashing weapons. In modern martial demonstrations in ceremonial ritual the pata (gauntlet sword) is used in pairs....using them in almost a 'windmill' fashion.

With the evolving katar types outside the southern sphere, the open hilt with transverse grip became the norm, while the hand protection of the gauntlet remained prevalent with the pata broadswords (gauntlet swords).

Werecow - great examples of what I'm talking about! :)

I can do the google! :D

(The pata is the only one I actually own.)

Also for completeness let's add a couple of sword sized ones, because they're buckets of fun.

I think its a matter similar to 'at what point does a dirk become a short sword' or the nebulous area of when does a sword become a knife? The katar and the pata were contemporary weapons and as examples of katar often used longer blades, and the variations of pata type hilts of course would be hard to categorize.

It is part of the futility in trying to distinctly categorize and classify the many forms of ethnographic edged weapons succinctly.

Whatever the case, these are some of the most intriguing edged weapons of India, and its great to see the variations brought into discussion.