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Athanase 3rd February 2021 12:42 PM

Show us your Dua Lalan
 
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Hello,

Here is a subject to exhibit your Dua Lalan


The first has a very simple wooden handle, the scabbard is covered with rattan with a brass band at the base.

The second has a pretty buffalo horn handle inlaid with bone, unfortunately it lacks the rattan on the grip and mice we seemed to find it to their taste ... The foot of the scabbard is in buffalo horn and is maintained by a bone pin.

Sajen 3rd February 2021 06:02 PM

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You have acquired some nice Sulawesi swords Séverin, congrats!

Here my honest example.

Regards,
Detlef

Athanase 8th February 2021 04:05 PM

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I forgot my first Duan Lalan ^^ :

JeffS 25th September 2022 03:37 AM

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Here are two more examples. I agree with the sentiment of Athanase (shared on his similar alamang post), these "Show me ..." posts are very helpful reference spots. They are also low hanging fruit for keeping our forum lively! 0

David R 27th September 2022 10:25 AM

Thank you for showing these, not seen anything like them before.

JeffS 27th September 2022 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by David R (Post 275249)
Thank you for showing these, not seen anything like them before.

They are quite interesting. Apparently the Torajan language does not have a written form but they make extensive use of precise symbols which carry meaning that is passed on orally. I've attached an example panel of symbols. After looking at a number of dua lalan I'm starting to suspect new symbols are added over time, perhaps to record significant events. I believe Detlef has one that clearly shows a carving that was added later on the field (on part that looks like a hornbill's beak) that is blank in my example above.

Athanase 29th September 2022 05:51 PM

Very nice Dua Lalan Jeff !!:)

Rafngard 8th August 2023 11:29 PM

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Recently picked up my first one.

Enjoy,
Leif

Athanase 18th May 2024 08:16 PM

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Hello,
Nice blade Rafngard.

My new Duan Lalan, with unusual handle and an exeptionnal pamor blade.

Sajen 18th May 2024 09:01 PM

Very nice one! Congrats! :cool:

kai 19th May 2024 11:16 PM

Hello Séverin,

I agree with Detlef - very nice piece!

The blade getting wider towards the tip is quite untypical for these.

Regards,
Kai

JeffS 20th May 2024 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Athanase (Post 291045)
Hello,
Nice blade Rafngard.

My new Duan Lalan, with unusual handle and an exeptionnal pamor blade.

Is that considered a twist core?

kai 21st May 2024 01:31 AM

Maybe not - close-ups would be great for verification, Séverin!

Gustav 21st May 2024 03:53 PM

Yes, two twisted rods on each side of blade.

Athanase 2nd June 2024 11:09 PM

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Some close up.

Gustav 6th September 2024 09:36 PM

Athanase, this link could be of interest to you. It shows a similar blade with similar handle, qnd attributes it to a certain Toraja group.

https://ificah-vr.de/exhibition-you-...-dolo/?lang=en

Sajen 7th September 2024 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Gustav (Post 293170)

Some of the shown weapons in this exhibition are coming originally from my collection. :cool::)

Gustav 7th September 2024 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen (Post 293171)
Some of the shown weapons in this exhibition are coming originally from my collection. :cool::)

Detlef, they surely wanted items of best quality from your collection. Just out of curiosity - did you already had the same kind of items of similar quality in your collection as the ones you gave them?

Sajen 7th September 2024 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Gustav (Post 293172)
Detlef, they surely wanted items of best quality from your collection. Just out of curiosity - did you already had the same kind of items of similar quality in your collection as the ones you gave them?

Hello Gustav,

I was only reasonably wealthy for a short time, I didn't want to see my children grow up in a rented apartment on a main road, so I bought a house and was therefore constantly forced to sell top pieces from my collection. The problem of a single earner! ;) All the pieces shown in this exhibition which came from my collection are now in one prominent collection. To answer your question, no, I haven't been able to purchase any comparable pieces since then. :(
The pieces are shown by the pics.

And here the threads where I have shown them before:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=Timor
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=taiwan
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=taiwan
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...highlight=nias

Regards,
Detlef

Gustav 7th September 2024 09:01 PM

Detlef,

you are a very good husband and father. I can't yet imagine myself parting with pieces of such quality.

Regards,
Gustav

Sajen 7th September 2024 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Gustav (Post 293178)
you are a very good husband and father. I can't yet imagine myself parting with pieces of such quality.

Thank you very much Gustav! :)

Gustav 17th September 2024 05:23 PM

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Here another specimen, quite elaborated Pamor, yet also kind of typical - a twisted rod (?) in the upper third, two twisted rods in the middle. Perhaps there was some different kind of a twisted rod at the edge, but it has vanished. Additionally a Batu Lapak, only on the "inner" side of blade.

Blade length - 44 cm.

Sajen 17th September 2024 11:32 PM

Very nice complete example! :cool:

Gustav 17th September 2024 11:44 PM

Thank you, Detlef!

I really can only admire the work of the blacksmith who made it. So many tricky welds, and not one significant cold shut.

JeffS 18th September 2024 01:59 AM

Also nice to see these with the bone inlay intact. Thank you for sharing.


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