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Nagawarrior 12th May 2006 02:34 AM

African axe or fake?
 
Hi all. Been busy posting here. Its certainly addictive. I'm thankful for all of your comments and patients.
Here I have an African axe or so I thought. I was told by a dealer that saw it on my wall it was a fake. Now I'm worried.
Your opinions are needed. It look real too me, but I'm no expert.
Thanks!
Stephen*

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Rick 12th May 2006 02:37 AM

Before Judging
 
I think one has to define 'Fake' .












/I feel a bout of deja vu coming on . :rolleyes:

Tim Simmons 12th May 2006 06:55 AM

The dealer is talking nonsense. I think it is a Shona axe or possibly Chokwe either way you are looking at the southern part of Africa, western for Chokwe and more easterly for Shona. I like it, early 20th cent?

Rather 12th May 2006 09:21 AM

I would agree to Tim, it doesn't look like a fairly new souvenir for tourists. Especially the carved part shows signs of aging and it could we well about 80 years old. I think it’s “Genuine”, (which also has to be defined :rolleyes: )

Flavio 12th May 2006 09:47 AM

Nice axe Stephen and for sure it's no a fake!!!! :)

katana 12th May 2006 10:29 AM

Is the handle varnished, it looks like it in one of the photos? If it is... it could make a piece look 'plasticky' (another technical term which is bad English and spelling). Certainly wouldn't constitute a 'fake' because of it though.

Lew 12th May 2006 11:25 AM

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Hi Naga Warrior

The axe is chokwe and it's no fake here is one from my collection for comparison.

Lew

Nagawarrior 12th May 2006 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katana
Is the handle varnished, it looks like it in one of the photos? If it is... it could make a piece look 'plasticky' (another technical term which is bad English and spelling). Certainly wouldn't constitute a 'fake' because of it though.

Thanks all for your comments. The handle does seem so have a wax on it, I assume to preserve it. It gives it a nice patina. Perhaps one could think it to be a false patina to make the piece seem older?

Nice Chokwe axe Lew. I really appreciate the input. I can feel better about this piece I think. :)

Tim Simmons 12th May 2006 03:48 PM

Nice natural patina, you can add wax if you like or give it to me.

Flavio 12th May 2006 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES
Hi Naga Warrior

The axe is chokwe and it's no fake here is one from my collection for comparison.

Lew


Hello Lew, i don't think that is chokwe. On Westerdijik's book there are two axes that are similar to the one on discussion: one is attributed to the LELE in the sphere of KUBA people and the other at the MBALA near, but not neighbor, to the chokwe. If i can, later or tomorrow i will post the pictures of the book.

Lew 12th May 2006 09:55 PM

Flavio

Are you referring to my axe or Naga's axe or both not being Chokwe?

Lew

Flavio 12th May 2006 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES
Flavio

Are you referring to my axe or Naga's axe or both not being Chokwe?

Lew


No Lew, yours is clearly (and a very nice) chokwe axe :)

Luc LEFEBVRE 12th May 2006 10:22 PM

Seems to be a good one !
Luc

Mapico1 14th May 2006 09:50 PM

Hi,this is a Pendé axe from the 1930ies in my opinion,the one from Lew clearly Tsjokwé.Regards,Danny

Lew 14th May 2006 10:25 PM

Hi Danny

I see you finally joined the forum Welcome to our world :D


Lew


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