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satsujinken 19th December 2016 07:50 AM

river found - old ?? don't think so
 
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This was offered to me, the seller said it was found on the river along with 3 more keris blades, but all 3 has no value, except this one is still "thick" and perhaps preserve-able


Note that I never take seller's story for real, and I am not thinking about buying this keris for now

please also note that along with strengthening of islam in Java, most people are no longer wanted to keep a keris, and choose to discard them, and preferred method is to toss them to sea or river


the owner said this blade is Pasopati (dhapur) with unknown pamor, and I differ in opinion as I clearly see the "pudhak sategal" on this blade

so let's start our discussion ...

is it possible this blade (judging from the corrosion) spend quite some time underwater or this was a new blade - aged artificially to look older ?

can we call this one "pasopati" or perhaps Sinom is more appropriate ?

thanks

Donny

kai 19th December 2016 08:57 AM

Hello Donny,

I also doubt this blade spend considerable time under water - I'd expect the corrosion to be much more erratic.

The circular & rectangular fit of the pesi looks weird, too. I'm especially weary of the discoloration of the gonjo at the pesi though... ;)

Regards,
Kai

satsujinken 19th December 2016 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kai
Hello Donny,

I also doubt this blade spend considerable time under water - I'd expect the corrosion to be much more erratic.

The circular & rectangular fit of the pesi looks weird, too. I'm especially weary of the discoloration of the gonjo at the pesi though... ;)

Regards,
Kai

agree at some point as the rate of corrosion seems to be weird on that area, looked like "welded" to me

Donny

mariusgmioc 19th December 2016 01:29 PM

I am almost certain this is is of rather recent manufacture, artificially aged.

Regards,

Marius

satsujinken 22nd December 2016 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc
I am almost certain this is is of rather recent manufacture, artificially aged.

Regards,

Marius

thanks, Marius

a new keris in good condition is way better than new one artificially aged

Donny


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