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AHorsa 3rd December 2015 06:41 PM

Dusägge around 1600
 
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Dear all,

is this an authentic weapon or a later reproduction? It´s is 89cm long.

Looking forward to your replies
Andreas

A.alnakkas 4th December 2015 02:03 PM

not my field but blade looks like it was taken off a tulwar. A common practice with some eastern European sellers.

corrado26 4th December 2015 04:37 PM

This is certainly a reproduction, absolutely no original Dusägge
corrado26

Evgeny_K 4th December 2015 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by A.alnakkas
not my field but blade looks like it was taken off a tulwar. A common practice with some eastern European sellers.

I completely agree

AHorsa 4th December 2015 11:13 PM

Thanks for your answers!
Now, as you name it, the blade looks indeed quite similar to a Tulwar.

Cheers
Andi

broadaxe 5th December 2015 04:49 PM

Keep in mind that many tulwars were fitted with European trade blades.

kronckew 5th December 2015 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by broadaxe
Keep in mind that many tulwars were fitted with European trade blades.

a most interesting story was about the sepoy rebellion, the british troops surpressing the revolt complained that their new model straighter sabres did not cut as well as the indian tulwars. it was discovered these tulwars had been re-bladed with surplus 'obsolete' UK 1796 LC sabre blades. the indians sharpened these, while the brits were lax in sharpening theirs, and the metal scabbards tended to dull their blades anyway. the indians used leather scabbards with wood linings. thus we come full circle, the original designs of the 1796lc appeared to be based on indian tulwars.

Timo Nieminen 5th December 2015 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew
the original designs of the 1796lc appeared to be based on indian tulwars.

So it is often said, but probably not the case. Almost certainly based on eastern European hussar sabres. There are 18th century, e.g., Hungarian, hussar blades where the family resemblance is clear.

kronckew 5th December 2015 11:04 PM

indeed, that's why i said 'appeared'. my reference said the comments on it at the time were that it was based on the hussar sabres of the east and also a resemblance to indian tulwars was mentioned. i imagine soldiers as well as design engineers of the period were familiar with all these styles.


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