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Jean 23rd September 2013 08:25 PM

Kris panjang on Ebay
 
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Dear friends,
This kris panjang was just sold on Ebay and I would like to get your opinion about it. The hilt is in Jawa demam style from Northern Java and the selut in South Sumatra style. My question relates to the wavy blade which is very unusual for this type of kris: it seems to me that the waves were made later and are uneven, and the blade seems to have been shortened (15 inches long only and the tip is not symmetrical). Your opinions will be welcome.
Best regards

David 23rd September 2013 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean
Dear friends,
This kris panjang was just sold on Ebay and I would like to get your opinion about it. The hilt is in Jawa demam style from Northern Java and the selut in South Sumatra style. My question relates to the wavy blade which is very unusual for this type of kris: it seems to me that the waves were made later and are uneven, and the blade seems to have been shortened (15 inches long only and the tip is not symmetrical). Your opinions will be welcome.
Best regards

I tend to agree with you Jean and didn't have much interest in this blade because of those very same observations. :shrug: :)

CharlesS 24th September 2013 11:42 PM

I have actually handled this blade and you know immediately it is way off as soon as you do handle it. I can't remember if it fit properly in the scabbard, but I don't think so. Looks like a parts piece all around.

Jean 25th September 2013 08:49 AM

Thank you gents.
While we are focusing on a keris panjang and as there is not much activity in the forum at present, why not posting pictures of various types of keris panjang unless there is already an old thread about the subject? :)
Best regards

Sajen 25th September 2013 12:42 PM

Hello Jean,

here is one about the subject: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=panjang

Regards,

Detlef

Jean 25th September 2013 06:04 PM

Thanks Sajen, I feel that we could expand the discussion to the various types of kris panjang (blades & sheaths) from all the concerned regions. I am particularly interested by the comment from Alan about wavy panjang blades and old panjang blades with pamor as I never saw any. :)
Best regards
Jean

Sajen 25th September 2013 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean
Thanks Sajen, I feel that we could expand the discussion to the various types of kris panjang (blades & sheaths) from all the concerned regions. I am particularly interested by the comment from Alan about wavy panjang blades and old panjang blades with pamor as I never saw any. :)
Best regards
Jean

Hello Jean,

have a look again to the thread I have posted in up, on the second page I have shown one of my kp with pamor blade and at in post # 50 Alan have given comments about both, pamor blades and wavy blades.

Best regards,

Detlef

Jean 25th September 2013 07:54 PM

Hello Detlef,
Do you believe that the long blade with pamor is from Sumatra/ Malaysia or rather Java/Madura? Besides the presence of pamor, the ganja and sor-soran are different from the usual panjang krisses and the blade looks thinner and wider.
And I would like to see more pics of pamor and wavy blades!
Best regards

Sajen 25th September 2013 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean
Hello Detlef,
Do you believe that the long blade with pamor is from Sumatra/ Malaysia or rather Java/Madura? Besides the presence of pamor, the ganja and sor-soran are different from the usual panjang krisses and the blade looks thinner and wider.
And I would like to see more pics of pamor and wavy blades!
Best regards


Hello Jean,

my best guess would be that it is a Sumatra panjang, the silver ornamentation and the handle let me think like this. The blade is thin because the blade has had a thick corrosion when I get it. A other interesting feature, the blade is of kapit construction, have a look here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=panjang
Here you can see also another kp with pamor blade from Kai Wee.

Best regards,

Detlef


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