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weapons 27 17th October 2012 11:10 AM

ottoman dager for id
 
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can you give me are original...It measures 47 cm long ,blade 32 cm, the handle is a horn.

Martin Lubojacky 17th October 2012 03:36 PM

Maybe extravagant idea:
Rests of Ottoman dagger and sheath reshaped in Chad. -- Some years ago I received (and do not have it more) newly made dagger, which was made in NŽDjamena. It had exactly the same cross-shelter with small balls, made of brass

Oliver Pinchot 27th October 2012 08:46 PM

Hi Martin,

This example is post-Ottoman era, probably Bulgarian work. It's based on the kindjal (Turkish: kama) carried by Caucasian troops in Ottoman service who were often posted in the Western Provinces, i.e. the Balkans. It is sufficiently common to constitute a subgroup. Most appear to have seen hard use from the late 19th century right through WWII.

Oliver

ALEX 28th October 2012 04:07 PM

Welcome to Oliver Pinchot
 
Has anyone noticed!!!????

Let me be the first to welcome Oliver to the Forum.
I know many forumites are as excited as I am to see one of the greatest experts of our time here.

Welcome to the Forum, Oliver.

Oliver Pinchot 29th October 2012 12:22 AM

Thank you, Alex.
I'm afraid I can't accept such kind words, however.

Harold Macmillan, British PM from 1957-1963 said, We have not overthrown the divine right of kings to fall down for the divine right of experts. I am inclined to give credence to anyone who lies calmly in a trench with a bullet in his hip, reading Aeschylus for a day while waiting for the medics.

Nice to be here, moi drug.

Oliver

A.alnakkas 29th October 2012 12:24 AM

Welcome to the forum Oliver!

Looking forward to your participation :-)

weapons 27 29th October 2012 06:46 PM

Welcome to olivier and thanks for your comments

broadaxe 31st October 2012 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver Pinchot
Hi Martin,

This example is post-Ottoman era, probably Bulgarian work. It's based on the kindjal (Turkish: kama) carried by Caucasian troops in Ottoman service who were often posted in the Western Provinces, i.e. the Balkans. It is sufficiently common to constitute a subgroup. Most appear to have seen hard use from the late 19th century right through WWII.

Oliver

I agree. It is all-original. Have had a similar one (shorter, one side had three fullers) in the past, my research led me to think it is Balkan/Bosnian, circa 1880-1920.

weapons 27 31st October 2012 01:57 PM

thank broadaxe


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