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colin henshaw 13th April 2012 10:52 AM

Ottoman ? dagger - translation request
 
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Hi

Here are some images of an Ottoman or Caucasus ? dagger I have. The sheath covering and handle are of silver (needs cleaning).

Can someone kindly translate the Turkish ? inscription for me, please.

Comments and identification of the dagger would be welcome - area of origin, approximate age etc...

Length in sheath is around 27cm.

Thanks in advance.

Dom 14th April 2012 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by colin henshaw
Hi

Here are some images of an Ottoman or Caucasus ? dagger I have. The sheath covering and handle are of silver (needs cleaning).

Can someone kindly translate the Turkish ? inscription for me, please.

Comments and identification of the dagger would be welcome - area of origin, approximate age etc...

Length in sheath is around 27cm.

Thanks in advance.

Hi Colin
- Ottoman Bichaq for sure,
- area of origin could be from Balkan
- date early to mid 19 C
after a nice cleaning, will be an very attractive dagger :p

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Dom

colin henshaw 16th April 2012 08:12 AM

Many thanks, Dom. Very useful information.

Are you able to translate the inscription for me ?

Regards
Colin

Dom 16th April 2012 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by colin henshaw
Are you able to translate the inscription for me ?

Hi Colin, sorry, to be useless
on a "ya",
- either the "cartouche" contain, Koranic sentence that we are able to translate, because obligatorily in Arabic language
- or, it's in Turkish language, sometimes, some words are common to both languages, as well as; sana (year) amal (made by) saheb (owner), but in your case ... should be entirely in Turkish
just be patient until our dear friend "Zifir" pass by, and give his point of view, he is the "master" in Turkish language

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Dom

I prepared a pic, little bite more clear to help the transcription ;)

Dom 23rd April 2012 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dom
I prepared a pic, little bite more clear to help the transcription ;)

Hi Colin
my friend "Zifir" told me ... it's not Turkish language :shrug:
may be some languages from Minor-Asia, wrote with Arabic alphabet
but which one ?? :confused:

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Dom

colin henshaw 23rd April 2012 03:43 PM

Hi Dom

Ah well - never mind. Many thanks for your efforts.

Regards
Colin


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