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thinreadline 6th December 2011 11:07 AM

ID for this dagger ?
 
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Overall 36 cm long, blade length 23 cm . Crude fullers. Scabbard and top of grip have a 'silver' appearance.

Atlantia 6th December 2011 12:03 PM

Tibet/Bhutan. Lots of modern carp doing the rounds at the moment but yours looks like its got some age.
Sometimes have hairpin lamination in the blades, which is what the fullers appear to be emulating in your example.
Nice length too, a good thing :).

thinreadline 6th December 2011 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Atlantia
Tibet/Bhutan. Lots of modern carp doing the rounds at the moment but yours looks like its got some age.
Sometimes have hairpin lamination in the blades, which is what the fullers appear to be emulating in your example.
Nice length too, a good thing :).

Thanks for that .. I bought it over 25 years ago at Weller & Duftys in Birmingham in the days when I just bought anything with an edge !

Stan S. 6th December 2011 12:09 PM

Nice dagger. Looks like something is missing from the grip... Is that red fabric I see?

Atlantia 6th December 2011 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Stan S.
Nice dagger. Looks like something is missing from the grip... Is that red fabric I see?


Sometimes these have coloured fabric incorporated into their mounts. I've seen ones with pierced sheet mounts with red fabric underneath.
The hilts are usually wire bound.

Atlantia 6th December 2011 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by thinreadline
Thanks for that .. I bought it over 25 years ago at Weller & Duftys in Birmingham in the days when I just bought anything with an edge !

Back in those days good Tibettan and Chinese stuff was fairly common. Most of these that I see now are small and often not old.

It looks as though there was wire on the hilt. Is the material under the remains or over it?

If it's gone it wouldn't be difficult to replace. The silver scabbards and mounts are sometimes plated sometimes solid. If solid they polish up quite well.

Best
Gene

Stan S. 6th December 2011 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Atlantia
Sometimes these have coloured fabric incorporated into their mounts. I've seen ones with pierced sheet mounts with red fabric underneath.
The hilts are usually wire bound.

Thats what I thought. On a 2nd look there appears to be remains of the original wire binding at the bottom of the fabric piece. If this is the only thing that's missing, it would easily restorable.

thinreadline 6th December 2011 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Stan S.
Thats what I thought. On a 2nd look there appears to be remains of the original wire binding at the bottom of the fabric piece. If this is the only thing that's missing, it would easily restorable.

Yes that is quite right , there is a piece of silver wire which was perhaps part of the binding on top of the red fabric.


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