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Lew 4th April 2010 06:05 PM

Possible Mandaya Spear Head?
 
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Just picked this up on ebay. Seems to be Mandaya?

Battara 4th April 2010 07:58 PM

Does look Mandaya in profile and form, although it does not have the details engraved into it.

Ferguson 5th April 2010 12:44 AM

I think you paid too much. ;) Just kidding.

From "The History of Steel in Eastern Asia" by the Macao Museum of Art:

"Mandaya spears are double edged with a central ridge and a distinct V-point. Spearheads are socketed to the shaft instead of a tang. Occasionally there is fine chiseling and paneling (#29). "

This one seems to fit the bill. Can't tell from the pics if it's socketed or tanged, though.

Nice!
Steve

Battara 5th April 2010 01:24 AM

From here I can tell it is socketed.

Lew 9th April 2010 09:06 PM

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The spear arrived today and I cleaned it up funny it seems to have a plastic ring separating the head from the socket? There is part of the shaft still stuck in the socket and it appears to made of bahi or palm wood lots of small black dots in the cross section.

Rick 9th April 2010 09:13 PM

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Can you see a tang inside the socket ? :confused:

A couple of examples of the metuk to socket transition .

Lew 9th April 2010 09:27 PM

Nope a piece of the shaft is still embedded in the socket.

Rick 9th April 2010 09:41 PM

It may be a tanged head stuck in a heavy ferrule . :shrug:

The profile is similar; the Mandaya spears in my collection have blades that are sword thick (1/4") or less; much thinner in cross section than a Moro spear.

I really haven't seen enough of these to get much of an opinion on standards .
I remember Bill had acquired a beautiful example in the not so distant past .

Paging Bill M. :D

Here we are .
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...=mandaya+spear

Battara 9th April 2010 11:11 PM

PLASTIC!?!? :eek:

Damage in the past? :confused:

Lew 10th April 2010 12:54 PM

What drill bit can I use to bore out the broken wood shaft that is stuck inside the ferrule?

Rick 10th April 2010 03:37 PM

How far inside is the shaft ?

If you can I'd suggest a screw be put into the shaft end .
Tie or wrap strong wire around it .
While heating the ferrule it might be possible to pull the shaft tip from the softened adhesive . :shrug:

kronckew 10th April 2010 04:03 PM

that grey 'plastic' ring looks like someone filled in a gap with epoxy-steel.

Lew 10th April 2010 04:03 PM

Rick I tried that and no luck need to drill it out.

Rick 10th April 2010 04:11 PM

That will be a nasty job Lew .
Good luck . :)

Got aircraft bits ?

Lew 10th April 2010 04:18 PM

A 3/8" auger bit may do the job?

Rick 10th April 2010 07:11 PM

Amazon's got a 12" long 5/16 available .
Might be worth it . :shrug:
http://www.amazon.com/HSELD-5-Speed-...0922789&sr=1-1


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