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Mysterious shord sword - kama
This kama (qama ?) is supposedly Persian/Iranian, but I don`t know how old is it and what`s on the maker`s mark. There are identical inscription on both sides. The lengh is 48cm (19 inches). What is the proper position to look at this mark - hilt directed downward? I would be very grateful for any comments.
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Nothing Persian about it, south Caucasus. If you post a closeup of the cartouche it would be easier. But its probably Georgian or Aramenian
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I hope you meant the sheath by cartotuche...
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Hi Buendia,
Cartouche. Regards, Norman. |
Pretty sure its Georgian, native speak can confirm it
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Thank you very much for your information. I was really convinced of its Persian origin.
I have checked both georgian and armenian alphabets - looking at the cartouche placed in this position: http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...G_0989cart.jpg the cartouche would yield the armenian letters YKB or possibly YLB. The letter in the middle was not 100% identical with contemporary letters. In georgian alphabet the first letter would be identified as V, but I was not able to identify the rest 2 letters. What could these letters mean? Initials of the maker? |
Since it comes from Caucasus shouldn`t it be called kindjal instead of kama?
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Well, not exactly :-)
In Georgia and most of Daghestan it is Khanjali ( with minor variations). In Chechnya/Ingushetiya it is Shalta In Chircassia and Ossetia it is Kama There are smaller nationalities as well, and there it varies between Shalta and Kama. I do not know what it is called in Armenian |
I do not know what it is called in Armenian[/QUOTE]
I heard "khanjul" but there are different dialects |
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