A Strange Tulwar
 

Hello!
I've got this tulwar, which my father bought on a trip to nepal.
The seller claimed this piece is very old.

The blade has a straight totally unsharpened segment followed by a deeply curving blade (which has an edge that has gotten dull over the years) . it has markings on both sides, a moon on one, and a sun on the other. it was fully covered with rust, and that's how it looks after some cleaning.

It's surprisingly well balanced, the unsharpened part fits well for gripping the blade with the left hand.

I have searched the internet and haven't found anything that looks like this sword, can anyone identify it? help me date it or determine it's authenticity?


thanks
Yaniv

looks like a tulwar tegha. try a search here on 'tegha'...

Could be a Tegha indeed .

Most unusual fullering on the blade, and I haven't seen such a wide/long forte in a Tegha before . :shrug:
Also, a very strangely angled spine .

Could we have some dimensions please ?

How did we miss this one????!!
Most unusual fullering, the tegha suggestions as far as we got. What about this fullering, the sun and moon symbols curiously placed at strategic location on blade.

It looks like the lovechild of a Tulwar and a Khopesh!
Very unusual blade form.

For some reason the blade and the fullering both look African to me. :shrug:

Regards,
Robert

LOL Gene!!:) It does indeed look like that sort of product!

Robert, what an excellent suggestion, and the curvature as well as the scribed profiled lines as 'fullering' does resemble certain Congo 'sickle' type weapons such as the nsakara. There does seem to be a certain merit to this suggestion as it has been well established that there was considerable emigration from India into Africa. It seems there were generations of workers there in Kenya and certainly other regions. Perhaps an African blade might have been mounted on a tulwar hilt.

My thinking was headed another direction, and mostly prompted by the unusual styling on the sunburst marking, which reminds me somewhat of similar seen associated with the Kalash tribes of Chitral regions. These are a primarily ancestral to the tribes known as Kafirs who occupied areas known as Kafiristan until the 1880s (now Nuristan). With thier animist traditions they resisted submission to the Emir of Afghanistan Abdur Rahman Khan and fled back to the areas of Chitral.
The sun and moon are of course widely used astral motif in the west and well as east, and Rajput clans, as well as similar in southern India and Sri Lanka are well known.
I would note that placement of certain imbuements such as symbols or markings are often placed at strategic locations on Indian blades, the three dots or 'trimurti' being one such instance, often near fuller terminals. I am not aware of such features emplaced in this way on African blades.

Possibly this curious blade may be some type of ceremonial or votive weapon used by these tribal people?
Still, the African idea intrigues me as well.

I hope we can pursue further!!! Most interesting.

Best regards,
Jim

* attached Congo nsakara, I think this was Luc's

Funny, but it looks like shotel to me, too.
The quality of the " finishing work" is kind of... african :-)
And the geometry of the blade, with the downward slant at the base of the blade is quite shotel-ish.

one thing not mentioned, is it sharp on both edges - full length inside the curve as well as outside or partial on one or the other? the tulwar guard placement is correct for an edge on the outside of the curve rather than for use as a sickle type weapon. as the initial photo was ''upside down'' it may have looked more sickle-ish, here it is ''rightside up'' ;)

It does look that way Kronk! Well noticed.
Can it actually be?

Perhaps the OP will comment?

The point looks very indian though.

If that back edge IS actually sharp then the ball is still in the air.
If not, then I suspect that what were are actually seeing is a variant of the 'Sosun pata' with a wide almost 'Tegha-esq' blade profile.
Probobly 19thC, and 'villlager' grade.
A nice thing, worth cleaning up I'd say.

As we know, things can get preety crazy out there: