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paolo 18th February 2007 06:52 PM

Comments about a shamshir
 
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Hi all,
I have many questions about this shamshir :
1. The translation of the writings in the cartouche
2. The meaning of the figures on the hilt
2. Its age
3. The blade is completly covered by a dark patina. Probably under there is a good wootz. How might I remove only the patina without ruin the damascus ?
Regards
Paolo

Battara 20th February 2007 02:20 AM

I'm guessing Persian and 19th century Qajar period.

ariel 20th February 2007 03:01 AM

And the signature says "Assadollah slept here" :rolleyes: :D

Jens Nordlunde 20th February 2007 11:00 PM

Hi Paolo,

Nice shamshir, Persian I would say, although I don't know much about Persian swords, but there are others on the forum who can help.

It is always a risk to remove the patina. If you don't find wootz, would you be sorry, or would you be as glad for the shamshir anyway?

Nice pictures:), and dont believe what Ariel writes - although I know he tries to be helpful:).




katana 20th February 2007 11:36 PM

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Hi Paulo,
nice Shamshir....another sword to add to the 'wanted list' :)

Is it me ...but the figure looks like a European in Renaissance period dress.. :shrug:

Joe 21st February 2007 02:24 AM

Yes, nice shamshir. Handle is definately Persian, Qajar Revival period. The blade however, appears much older, and may be 18th century.

paolo 21st February 2007 01:57 PM

Thank You all for the inputs.

Katana, also I noted on many Persian hilts (above all on ivory kanjars of Qajar period) that the figures are showed with dresses that seems these of the European Renaissance. I wondered at it.

Regards
Paolo


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