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MrLyon101 15th October 2014 08:42 AM

japanese pipes?
 
After my grandfather passed I inherited these pipes. Now my gpa never smoked and they do not looked used. Am I right are these tobacco pipes or "other" pipes. I also have not been able to find another ring pipe like the small one here. Any info on what these are would help me alot. Thank you.

fernando 15th October 2014 09:55 AM

And ... what about the pictures ?

kronckew 15th October 2014 11:04 AM

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:) da debble made me do it

MrLyon101 15th October 2014 04:05 PM

Well guess the file size is to large to upload. I will see if I can compress them some. Sorry!

Andrew 15th October 2014 05:32 PM

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Likely kiseru. Used for smoking kizami (a type of tobacco).

I believe another member here collects these... :shrug:

David 15th October 2014 05:35 PM

I have on almost identical to #106 Andrew.

David 15th October 2014 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew
:) da debble made me do it

Hey Wayne, that is NOT a pipe… ;) :rolleyes: :D

Rick 15th October 2014 06:05 PM

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My nicest one ...

fernando 15th October 2014 07:10 PM

Looking at #108
 
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Does mine qualify ? :o


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Rick 15th October 2014 07:25 PM

A most unusual shape !

Andrew 15th October 2014 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick
My nicest one ...

Is that gold, Rick? Very nice!

Rick 15th October 2014 10:44 PM

Brass with copper inlay, Andrew, carved deeply right around the pipe . :)
I'll have to try to get a better shot or two of it .
Likely made by some former sword fitting maker .

I'd love to know more about the symbolism of the scene .

As I understand it some kiseru were weapons grade . :cool:

MrLyon101 16th October 2014 10:47 PM

ok finally got them
 
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Ok took me a bit to change the format but i hope they post now

kahnjar1 17th October 2014 06:41 AM

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I have had this one for a while. Definite signs of use as smell of tobacco is quite strong. Assuming it is Chinese???as the decoration is of dragons though I suppose it could be Japanese.
Any help here gentlemen?

blue lander 19th October 2014 04:40 PM

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A Mongolian pipe and tobacco pouch.

The shank is wood, the stem is some sort of glass or ceramic. The ends of the wooden shank where they mate with the bowl and stem are wrapped in string to make an air tight connection. The string apparently has to be replaced every once in awhile.

The pipe is usually carried in the tobacco pouch itself with the stem sticking out of the top. I think the pouch itself was carried in the boot leg. Traditionally when you visited somebody's house you'd use your host's pipe and he'd use yours. You'd use your own tobacco though. I don't know what form the tobacco was in, it must be cut more finely than western tobacco or perhaps powdered.

Timo Nieminen 19th October 2014 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kahnjar1
I have had this one for a while. Definite signs of use as smell of tobacco is quite strong. Assuming it is Chinese???as the decoration is of dragons though I suppose it could be Japanese.
Any help here gentlemen?

Haven't seen an original of these before, but plenty of replica Chinese pipes in this style, so I'd call it Chinese. I don't know if anybody else in East Asia used water pipes (I haven't seen Korean or Japanese water pipes), but the Chinese definitely did.


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