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Ferguson 18th March 2012 12:39 PM

My first Kampilan
 
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Also my first auction experience. Very exciting! :) Bought it at the Auctions Imperial last night at the Timonium show. Nice blade, thick at the hilt. It has some light power sanding marks, but they will come out with a polish. I'd love your comments.
Thanks,
Steve

Lew 18th March 2012 01:21 PM

Wow very nice! Wish I was there ;)

Lew

Sajen 18th March 2012 02:10 PM

Hi Steve,

beautiful Kamp! :) I was one of the low online bidders on this one. I love the reddish wood with the nice grain.
Congrats to your first Kampilan, I am curious to see the blade etched. Do you plan to give him back his eyes? See here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=kampilan

Regards,

Detlef

carlos 18th March 2012 02:28 PM

Congratulations!!! a very good piece, be carefull, the kampilans are dangerous...to the wallet, is like a virus!!
best regards
carlos

VANDOO 18th March 2012 07:01 PM

NOW YOU ARE AN EXTREME MORO COLLECTOR!! :eek:
YOU HAVE JUMPED FROM THE SMALLEST MORO BLADES TO THE LARGEST.
CONGRADULATIONS, LOOKS LIKE A VERY NICE OLD ONE, I ESPECIALLY LIKE THE WOOD AND PIERCED TIP.

David 18th March 2012 07:08 PM

Looks like an excellent example in a nice stat of condition....congrats! :)

ThePepperSkull 18th March 2012 07:15 PM

Was going to bid on this but had to work. Lucky for both of us as I don't think I have the money right now!

Congrats on a great piece. It really is beautiful, Steve

Battara 18th March 2012 08:00 PM

Nice honest piece - congratulations. I agree with Sajen that the silver disk eyes are the only things missing. Otherwise complete (sans scabbard).

CharlesS 18th March 2012 10:38 PM

Congrats again....and apologies....you could have saved a few more dollars if I had realized I was bidding against you sooner. If I had known you were interested in it earlier I never would have bid at all, but you still got it for a darn good price.

The piece is far better in person than the pics indicate. It is one of the heaviest examples I have ever handled, with very crisp carving.

Nice pick up!

Ferguson 19th March 2012 02:25 AM

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Thank you all gentlemen! I do plan to give her back her eyes. Just have to find some coins from the proper period.

No problem Charles. I was so nervous bidding that I didn't even notice who I was bidding against. Sorry if you wanted it. I was pleased at the price it went for.

Just had to give it a polish and etch as soon as I finished the 7 hour drive home. :D And I was pleasantly surprised! :D

Robert 21st March 2012 07:38 AM

A wonderful Kampilan Steve. I am happy that you've finally been able to add one to your collection and a very nice one at that. I have never seen the grip with this style of wrap before, is this a common form? Beautiful overall condition and once the eyes have been replaced WOW :eek: My congratulation on your latest addition.

Robert

Lew 21st March 2012 07:59 AM

Nice polish and etch my friend now what did I do with that eye ;) :D . I guess some type of period coin may be needed?

Ferguson 21st March 2012 04:23 PM

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Thanks Robert. I've seen similar wraps on Kris, but I haven't handled many Kampilan. Pictures I've seen mostly show rattan wraps, or missing wraps.

Thanks Lew!

I have a couple of 20 centavo coins coming from Ebay. Which side of the coin would usually be shown?

Steve

Robert 21st March 2012 04:31 PM

Most of the ones I've seen using these coins have the eagle and shield side showing.

Robert

Sajen 21st March 2012 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferguson

I have a couple of 20 centavo coins coming from Ebay. Which side of the coin would usually be shown?

Steve

I have had the same problem (and use as well 20 centavos coins) so I show at one side the eagle and at the other side the "girl". Look the thread I give you in post # 3.

Regards,

Detlef

migueldiaz 23rd March 2012 12:53 AM

Steve, thanks for the pics! Very nice lamination patterns!

In my opinion, the kampilan symbolizes the bird-deity just like the kris, barung, and pira (with the beak & crest of the kakatua in the pommel, etc.). Hence, we often see ukkil on the kampilans' crossguard that makes it look like outspread bird wings. And I also think that the kampilan's blade tip (with or without the spikelet) is the bird's head and beak. Thus the bifurcated pommel will logically be the bird's tail (and not the open mouth of a croc).

There's also a Muslim univ. professor whom I interviewed about two years ago, who in turn interviewed at least two prominent Mindanao craftsmen earlier. Here's what the univ. prof. told me:

"The kampilan represents a swift's tail, particularly the Purple Needletail Swift which is a bird known to hunt in large groups, nests in caves, and unlike most birds, it makes no noises or calls – thus warrior-like. It’s also known for its beautiful shiny purple color."

It's no coincidence thus that often we see the bird side of the coin displayed on the kampilan's hilt (as Robert also noted).

Further up north among the Panay Bukidnons in the Visayas (central Phils.), they are fond of using a Mexican coin with a sun burst design on one side. The logic is the same - it is all about the veneration of the sun god and the bird deity (two sides of the same coin :D) of the ancient religion of the islands.

Thus IMHO I think you should show the bird side of the coin when you affix them in your kampilan ...

Just my two cents ;)

Lorenz

Ferguson 23rd March 2012 07:24 PM

Lorenz,
Thank you so much for sharing this information. It's fascinating! Bird side it is!

Steve

Ferguson 25th March 2012 08:29 PM

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She can see now.

Steve

Lew 25th March 2012 10:36 PM

Well done :) .

archer 25th March 2012 10:51 PM

Congrats
 
Nice Work!!

Sajen 26th March 2012 12:41 AM

Yes, well done! :)

Battara 26th March 2012 02:15 AM

Brings it back to life doesn't it.

Ferguson 26th March 2012 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara
Brings it back to life doesn't it.

Yes it does!

Thanks gents. :D

Steve

Robert 26th March 2012 03:13 AM

Looks GREAT Steve!!! Now that it can see again be careful not to make it mad :eek: ;) :D

migueldiaz 27th March 2012 02:48 PM

nice! :)


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