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erikscollectables 13th April 2018 02:05 PM

Shamshir ID help needed
 
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Hi, just came across this shamshir, any ideas on age and or region?

Seems to have age, no markings on the blade which seems to be well made but sharpened a lot over time.

Thanks for looking and your help!

Regards, Erik

Roland_M 13th April 2018 05:19 PM

Hi Eric,

the blade seems to be a European army pattern from ~1750-1850. The crossguard is is borrowed by a Shamshir, the hilt looks like a late Viking or early Medieval long sword.

In my humble opinion it is either European work of early 19th., probably older blade with a newer Shamshir like hilt.

Or perhaps it comes from Iran. They made very good copies of European blades, preferably French patterns (Khorasani, "Arms and Armor from Iran" page 559-567), sometimes with an European hilt, sometimes with an Oriental hilt.

The hilt construction is relatively obviously not intended for battlefield use. I believe, the signs of usage and resharpening happened with the original hilt.


Regards,
Roland

erikscollectables 13th April 2018 06:47 PM

Handle and crossguard have the same type of design with leaves so seem to belong together. Certainly has an European feel to it.

erikscollectables 15th April 2018 07:34 PM

No other input?

So probably an European mameluke military style sword. In this case a wild combination of shamshir and European design.

Handle also shows signs of long term use so would guess blade and handle belong together.


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