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kino 12th July 2024 05:55 PM

Where is this Shield from?
 
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Can anyone please name the culture that this circular rattan shield is from?
Initially I thought the shield was Chinese but the size & shape makes me doubt that it is.
Thanks.

Sajen 12th July 2024 07:56 PM

Hello Albert,

Could be Chinese, Tengpai but I am unsure.

Regards,
Detlef

kino 13th July 2024 04:24 PM

Thanks for your reply Sajen.

drac2k 15th July 2024 06:03 PM

Along those lines Vietnam or Laos. Erik Farrow, a very reputable dealer currently has one similar to yours on his site for sale; the shield has provenance.

Sajen 15th July 2024 08:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by drac2k (Post 292110)
Along those lines Vietnam or Laos. Erik Farrow, a very reputable dealer currently has one similar to yours on his site for sale; the shield has provenance.


It's sold so I can post it here for comparison and later reference.

Here the original description:

Large rattan Chinese Tengpai shield with a tiger face on the front. This style of shield was a military issue style for the special forces tiger division of the 18th and early 19th century. It is entirely made out of rattan with a large coil connected my small woven strips. The original handle is intact, and the paint is all original natural pigment.

27" diameter. 18th or early 19th century, China. ....Sold

Sajen 16th July 2024 10:27 AM

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Another sold one from Mandarinmansion. 77,5 cm diameter. There are other sold ones from this site.

I've stated before that I am unsure if the shield in question is Tengpai because I am missing the wooden "stop-ridge" by it which is seen normally by these shields.

kino 16th July 2024 08:38 PM

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Drac2k and Sajen, the shield I posted is closer to this Borneo example from the Smithsonian Institute, than Erik’s Tengpai.

The Borneo shield is smaller in diameter, I believe their Chinese cousins, from what I have observed are significantly larger. The “B” shield is flat while the Tengpai has a domed front. The darker rattan colors on my shield is dyed not painted, similar to the rattan weavings on a Mandau. With this I tend to believe my shield is from Borneo. The estate that I obtained my shield from had several items from Borneo as well. Here are 2 items (any idea what they are? ),that I acquired from the same estate. I’m not aware of their age.

werecow 16th July 2024 09:30 PM

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Could the rightmost one be the grip for a piso raut biknife maybe?

https://www.artoftheancestors.com/bl...-van-zonneveld

Sajen 17th July 2024 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by werecow (Post 292126)
Could the rightmost one be the grip for a piso raut biknife maybe?

https://www.artoftheancestors.com/bl...-van-zonneveld


I guess that the sticks are so called tun tun. ;)

See here: https://www.google.com/search?q=daya...t=gws-wiz-serp

kino 17th July 2024 05:06 PM

Tun-tun’s 🙂, so they are.
Thanks guys.


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