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drac2k 5th September 2023 05:25 PM

Unknown Short Sword
 
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I haven't see anything like this with a strange guard;also marked W8&Co ?
Can anyone identify this sword?

kai 5th September 2023 08:49 PM

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also marked W8&Co ?
W & Co

Jerseyman 5th September 2023 09:21 PM

Weyersburg & Co?

drac2k 5th September 2023 09:27 PM

Maybe W8 c Co, ?

Bob A 5th September 2023 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by drac2k (Post 284504)
Maybe W8 c Co, ?

Pretty sure that's supposed to be an ampersand. (&)

corrado26 6th September 2023 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerseyman (Post 284503)
Weyersburg & Co?

The firm is called "Weyersberg & Co"

M ELEY 6th September 2023 08:15 AM

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Reminds me of mid-19th c. 'pioneer' swords. There were many different 'styles'. Yours looks like a cross between a pioneer saber and an ecole de mars type...

M ELEY 6th September 2023 10:16 AM

Here's a pioneer/sapper's short sword with similar pattern blade-

drac2k 6th September 2023 02:38 PM

M.ELEY, do you have another sword that you meant to post. I get the reference to the "Ecole de Mars," in regards to the guard and also it does look like a light Pioneer Sword, possibly Austrian. I haven't ruled out that it is a Society sword for a group such as the ODD FELLOWS, etc., except that it is too plain and they usually rounded or cut off the ends; I guess something about drinking and sharp tips don't mix.

M ELEY 7th September 2023 05:49 AM

Hello drac2k. Yes, unfortunately the Austrian sapper's sword I was unable to post. The blade on it was nearly exact, being the gladius pattern, but the hilt was still not a match. Hope we can all solve the mystery!

drac2k 7th September 2023 01:21 PM

Thanks M.ELEY, I think we are on the right path; or maybe I'll just do what all of the Old Timers do at Miltaria shows when they don't know what something is............call it" Confederate," LOL.

M ELEY 8th September 2023 02:28 PM

:D:D Brilliant!

not2sharp 9th September 2023 12:12 AM

I like it….

I suspect the key to this might be the handle pins. I feel like I have seen similar screw fittings on some bayonets.

N2s

not2sharp 10th September 2023 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by not2sharp (Post 284565)
I like it….

I suspect the key to this might be the handle pins. I feel like I have seen similar screw fittings on some bayonets.

N2s

The closest match that I could find was on a Dutch 1873 Beaumont bayonet. I wonder if that is the same nut used on your sword (installed upside down).

https://content.easyliveauction.com/...63_PREVIEW.JPG

M ELEY 11th September 2023 04:27 AM

Hmm, perhaps a varient of this model? (I know. Too short and only slightly similar, but blade shape, securing pins similar. I get a feeling your sword is more of a 'munitions grade', not being insulting, but a field sword, like the pioneer models)



https://www.wardaggers.com/BC311.htm


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