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carlos 15th March 2007 12:20 AM

TOURIST EDGED WEAPOND AND FAKES
 
RECIENTLY I HAVE BOUGHT A TOURIST NIAS SWORD, BUT IīM NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT.
I HAVE A LITTLE PROBLEM , I KNOW HOW IS IT THE REAL SWORDS, BUT SOMETIMES LOOK FOR PICTURES WITH TOURIST ITEMS TO IDENTIFY THEM. IS POSSIBLE THAT YOU COULD PUT THE PICTURES OF ETHNOGRAPHIC EDGED WEAPONS MADE FOR THE TOURIST MARKET ( MANDAUS, BALATOS, KRIS, KAMPILAN..)?
THANKS!!
CARLOS

Bill M 15th March 2007 02:15 AM

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Interesting idea, Carlos.

Here is a Chinese Han dynasty battle sword. Bought from an established dealer as a fake.

Bill M 15th March 2007 02:17 AM

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And a Chinese / Tibetan helmet. This helmet is so well done that an expert thought it might be real until he picked it up. If real, it would have been worth about 150 times what I paid.

I will post some more later that I bought early on, thinking they were real.

Battara 15th March 2007 10:42 PM

W :eek: W!

That's a good fake helmet!

carlos 20th March 2007 07:01 PM

BALATO
 
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TODAY HAS ARRIVED THE BALATO AND I HAVE UNDERSTAND WHY THE SELLER DONīT ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOUT THE LENGHT...IS ONLY 13 INCH!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Tim Simmons 20th March 2007 07:21 PM

No need to boast :D

Dajak 20th March 2007 09:05 PM

13 inch better than 8 inch

Ben

Bill M 21st March 2007 12:50 AM

Carlos,

There are several things to consider.

First, Nias is often faked because it is a unique and exotic culture, weapons, jewelry, statues.

Second, good quality, but not truly authentic weapons are mostly going to be mid to late 20th c and will cost in the $1,000+ USD range. Authentic pieces from the headhunting days will be MUCH higher and are very, very rare.

If you want to learn, spend some time on this forum. Use the "search" feature. Get to know some good dealers. Buy some books. Here is a good one on Nias.

http://www.ebay.com.my/viItem?ItemId=290092374953

Check around, you might find it cheaper.

carlos 5th April 2007 07:52 PM

Another fake
 
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Philippines dagger? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Battara 5th April 2007 10:15 PM

Well, I don't know about fake, but how about "recently made". Some more recent ones have eagles on them and are made of this type of later leather sheaths like this (earlier ones don't).


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