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mariusgmioc 25th December 2019 11:49 PM

Kard but from where
 
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I got this wootz kard recently. The T-spined blade has about 27 cm (11").
It was advertised as Persian or Bukharan kard.
However, I believe it has some unmistakeable Ottoman features.
So what do you think?! :shrug:

Battara 26th December 2019 12:13 AM

I’ve seen this sold several years ago. Without a doubt I lean towards Ottoman by the end of the scabbard and the hilt.

Both Persians and Ottomans used walrus ivory and both used scabbards like this.

A really nice piece, congratulations.

kronckew 26th December 2019 01:24 AM

the coiled wire seam on the scabbard as well as the tip scream Turkish.

Battara 26th December 2019 02:11 AM

Good point Kronckew. This scabbard looks very Ottoman to me.

mahratt 26th December 2019 08:01 AM

Hello Marius

I think you're absolutely right. This is not Persia and moreover it is not Bukhara. My opinion is a very good Ottoman kard.
My congratulations

mariusgmioc 26th December 2019 09:44 AM

Thank you guys for your oppinions! :)

Battara 26th December 2019 06:14 PM

Another question for me: were the turquoise stones originally held in place by gold settings? There seem to be round discoloration on the ivory around the turquoise stones.

mariusgmioc 26th December 2019 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara
Another question for me: were the turquoise stones originally held in place by gold settings? There seem to be round discoloration on the ivory around the turquoise stones.

I don't think there were any gold mountings because:
there are no traces of gold anywhere;
there are no visible grooves where the gold would have been inserted;
gold mountings on hilts are more an Indian trait, not Ottoman.

Battara 27th December 2019 05:57 AM

Well I'll agree that kundun technique is unique to India. But I have seen silver and gold mounts for Ottoman gems (and even for glass look alikes).


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