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Pertinax 13th June 2024 03:43 PM

Ceremonial sword, Hemba/Luba, D.R. Congo
 
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A new sword has arrived in my African collection.

The Hemba (Luba Hemba) people (or Eastern Luba) are a Bantu ethnic group in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC).

Quite a rare item; I only came across a couple of specimens from this ethnic group.

A special feature is the very massive handle - a pommel with one body and two faces.

Specifications:
total length – 620 mm, sword length – 590 mm, blade length – 380 mm, blade width at the hilt – 65 mm, blade thickness – 3 mm, weight with sheath – 1000 g, weight – 620 g

By all indications, this sword is some kind of symbol of power or status.

Each Hemba clan has a kabeja, a figurine with one body and two faces, male and female, on one neck. Sacrifices are made to the Kabeje, who pass them on to the spirits.

Pertinax 13th June 2024 03:53 PM

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Additional photos

gp 13th June 2024 08:36 PM

enclosed 2 more interesting links concerning tribal maps

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...8&postcount=47

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...1&postcount=46

Pertinax 13th June 2024 09:18 PM

[QUOTE=gp;291551]enclosed 2 more interesting links concerning tribal maps

Thank you gp

Very useful information

Sajen 13th June 2024 11:19 PM

Very nice and complete example! :cool:

Pertinax 14th June 2024 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sajen (Post 291555)
Very nice and complete example! :cool:

Hi Detlef, thanks!

Now comes the pleasant task of cleaning. ;)
Regards, Yuri

Sajen 14th June 2024 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pertinax (Post 291566)
Hi Detlef, thanks!

Now comes the pleasant task of cleaning. ;)
Regards, Yuri

Please share pics after it! ;)

Regards,
Detlef

Marc M. 14th June 2024 10:26 AM

Judging from the appearance of the masks, kifwebe, depicted on the handle and scabbard, I would say Songye rather than Luba. It is often difficult to attribute an object to a people, especially when use and design are so close. Interesting piece.

Best regards
Marc

Pertinax 14th June 2024 10:37 AM

[QUOTE=Sajen;291567]Please share pics after it! ;)

Necessarily. :)

Regards, Yuri

Pertinax 14th June 2024 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc M. (Post 291568)
Judging from the appearance of the masks, kifwebe, depicted on the handle and scabbard, I would say Songye rather than Luba. It is often difficult to attribute an object to a people, especially when use and design are so close. Interesting piece.

Best regards
Marc

Hi Marc, thanks!

Yes, very similar to Songye.

You're right, Hemba and Songye's ancestors migrated from the Luba Empire, so they have a lot in common.

On the Hemba people, I found information on the Kabeja cult. There are figurines for Songye Janus Two Faced, but I have not found a description of the cult.

Regards, Yuri

Pertinax 14th June 2024 05:12 PM

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Thanks to Mark's help, I am amending the identification of the sword.

The sword clearly belongs to the culture of the Songye people.

drac2k 15th June 2024 02:16 PM

Thank you for the vintage picture of the warrior.I always considered the shield that he has ,with the carving and face to be made for tourists, but it appears that I may have been wrong based on the photograph.

Pertinax 15th June 2024 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by drac2k (Post 291574)
Thank you for the vintage picture of the warrior.I always considered the shield that he has ,with the carving and face to be made for tourists, but it appears that I may have been wrong based on the photograph.

Thanks to the forum, we have the opportunity to exchange information and gain new knowledge. :)

Pertinax 22nd June 2024 05:46 PM

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Cleaned and tidied up the sword. Here is the result:

gp 22nd June 2024 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pertinax (Post 291700)
Cleaned and tidied up the sword. Here is the result:

beautiful faces ! my compliment; very nicely cleaned !
Enclosed 2 pics from Kifwebe masks, the 2nd from the Brooklyn Museum

Pertinax 22nd June 2024 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gp (Post 291701)
beautiful faces ! my compliment; very nicely cleaned !
Enclosed 2 pics from Kifwebe masks, the 2nd from the Brooklyn Museum

Thanks gp

Sajen 23rd June 2024 10:33 AM

Very good job, congrats! :cool:

Pertinax 23rd June 2024 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sajen (Post 291711)
Very good job, congrats! :cool:

Thanks Detlef :п


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