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Freddy 25th March 2010 01:03 PM

Big keris
 
Just got this straight-bladed keris in last week.

Probably a Bugis keris. I was wondering about the size of this piece. The blade measures 37 cm from the handle to the tip. It's heavy with a thickness of almost 1 cm near the ganja.

I know Bugis blades are strong, functional pieces, but are large blades like this one usual ?

The blade is uncleaned as I received it, but I can see pamor (look at the pic)


hanggoye 25th March 2010 01:59 PM

where the pic??

Freddy 25th March 2010 02:03 PM

It's the last one, showing the lines on the blade near the tip.

kai 26th March 2010 10:02 AM

Hello Freddy,

All parts aren't Bugis/Sulawesi as far as I can tell. No scabbard?

The pendokok could be from the eastern Malay peninsula. (Maybe younger than hilt and blade though?)

Regards,
Kai

Moshah 26th March 2010 11:32 AM

Hi fred,

Was the ganja's really a ganja? Or was it a ganja iras?

PenangsangII 26th March 2010 12:06 PM

Based on the pics of the blade alone.... I think this is a Palembang piece

Freddy 26th March 2010 06:45 PM

Hi, all.

The ganja of this keris is seperate.

The pendokok is very simple, but it has an interesting feature. The two rings between the actual cup of the pendokok and the blade are not attached to that 'cup'. They are a seperate piece.
Every pendokok I have seen in the past was made from 1 piece of metal.

Sorry to say, but this keris came without sheath.

Here's a better pic of the pendokok.


Rick 26th March 2010 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PenangsangII
Based on the pics of the blade alone.... I think this is a Palembang piece

Agree, in at least for me this blade redefines 'Bugis' . :confused:

I'm not used to seeing what I consider an atypical blade cross-section such as this . :confused:

Probably just my ignorance showing though .. :o :shrug:

David 26th March 2010 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Freddy
The pendokok is very simple, but it has an interesting feature. The two rings between the actual cup of the pendokok and the blade are not attached to that 'cup'. They are a seperate piece.
Every pendokok I have seen in the past was made from 1 piece of metal.

This Terengganu Keris i recently posted in another thread has this same feature in the pendokok. I have seen at least one other set up like this, also from Terengganu. :shrug:

Alam Shah 27th March 2010 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PenangsangII
Based on the pics of the blade alone.... I think this is a Palembang piece

Based on the style, metal and pamor construction.. a possible origin.. Palembang is a potpourri of styles.. hilt ring (pendokok) is not original to the hilt, and hilt (hulu) may not be original to the blade.. however, it's a nice robust blade.. simple and yet beautiful.. congratulations! :)

kulbuntet 27th March 2010 11:11 PM

salaam aleikum all,

blade is IMO palembang.


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