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Pitt1999 3rd August 2024 05:13 PM

Syrian(?) Kindjal
 
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I recently purchased this small (10½ inch overall) kindjal that was described as being of Turkish origin.

The metal scabbard with silver inlay suggests that at least the scabbard could be of Syrian manufacture, although this scabbard is decorated in a much more simple style than what is typically seen in these steel and silver scabbards.

The blade has a mark that I remember seeing on some other kindjal before. It is clearly not related to this symbol in any way, but it reminds me of a small, less detailed version of the "flaming bomb" mark found on some Spanish and American weaponry.

On both sides of the blade there appears to be an acid etched pattern meant to imitate a pattern welded/twist core blade. I'm unsure if its the way that these photos were taken (these are the seller's photos), but the tip looks thicker than the rest of the blade. I think this kindjal is from the early to mid 20th century, so I am doubtful that it would have a reinforced tip.

Any and all comments are welcome.

Interested Party 3rd August 2024 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt1999 (Post 292442)
The metal scabbard with silver inlay suggests that at least the scabbard could be of Syrian manufacture, although this scabbard is decorated in a much more simple style than what is typically seen in these steel and silver scabbards.

The blade has a mark that I remember seeing on some other kindjal before. It is clearly not related to this symbol in any way, but it reminds me of a small, less detailed version of the "flaming bomb" mark found on some Spanish and American weaponry.

I am not sure about the Syrian attribution. I always associate Syria with their lower end punched decoration in brass. Sorry no help there. What I do see is that the mark may be a version of the "vessel." I am having some perspicacity problems and can't remember the Arabic word for the motif. I believe it repeats on the sheath with the tree of life sprouting from it.

Do you think the front handle scale is Bakelite?

Pitt1999 3rd August 2024 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Interested Party (Post 292444)
Do you think the front handle scale is Bakelite?

I do suspect that the hilt scales are bakelite or some other synthetic material. I wonder if it can be an older blade that got remounted with new furniture.

Sajen 4th August 2024 11:55 AM

Hello Pitt,

I am not an expert for this region but my feeling tells me that your nice dagger could be from Libanon. I like this piece, the handle scales are from goat horn IMVHO. With your age guess I would occur.

Regards,
Detlef

RobT 5th August 2024 12:25 AM

Same Logo
 
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Hi All,

Here is another with the same logo. Hilt is also very similar. I'm sure that the scales on mine are horn. Six inch blade. Brass sheath.

Sincerely,
RobT

Klop 7th August 2024 04:01 PM

Both are nice daggers, and for the straight one I'm also convinced the scales are natural horn.

Kind regard,
Eric


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