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Evgeny_K 21st May 2018 04:18 PM

Unknown something (mace head?)
 
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Gentlemen,
What do you think about this artefact found somewhere on Crimean peninsula?
Looks like some kind of mace head, but weight is 76.5g :shrug:

Rick 22nd May 2018 03:08 AM

Is it hollow?

Hotspur 22nd May 2018 06:34 AM

Looks like a finial from something along the line of a fireplace andiron or poker.

Cheers
GC

corrado26 22nd May 2018 03:19 PM

The eagle is probably or perhaps the agle of the county of Tirol in Austria.
corrado26

Evgeny_K 22nd May 2018 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick
Is it hollow?

It has tapering hole 3.5 cm deep
The socket is 1.5 cm in diameter

Evgeny_K 22nd May 2018 05:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by corrado26
The eagle is probably or perhaps the agle of the county of Tirol in Austria.
corrado26

Looks like German Imperial Eagle (Reichsadler):

Evgeny_K 22nd May 2018 05:41 PM

Could it be schiavona like pommel?

Hotspur 22nd May 2018 09:21 PM

Imo, the diameter of the socket and coarseness of casting pretty much rule out anything weapon related.

Cheers

GC

Victrix 23rd May 2018 10:17 PM

The beak of the creature looks too long for a Reichsadler. It looks like a dragon (not that I ever saw one in real life) or a heron/pelican over a crown? The shape of the knob is oddly ”organic” and I could imagine that it may have topped a staff of symbolical significance (tribal hetman chief or herald)? This is pure conjecture.

salsan 28th May 2018 04:22 PM

It is clear that this is a metal object that has been cleaned. The upper part has a cutting edge, and the lower small hole has a corresponding depth and diameter. In all likelihood, this is an arbalest bolt. The fact that it depicts the coat of arms is only giving more status to this subject. If we consider that the object was found in the Crimea, then in all likelihood it relates to the Genoese colonies in the northern Black Sea region, called Gazaria, in the 13th - 15th centuries. Proceeding from this, it is easy to conclude that the coat of arms belongs to the influential aristocratic Doria family, which played an important role in the Genoese republic and spread its influence to the Genoese colony of Cuff and the Trebizond Empire.

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Evgeny_K 28th May 2018 09:34 PM

salsan, thank you VERY much! Уour version is very convincing.


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