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Rick 13th April 2012 02:28 AM

Adeg Wengkon
 
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New to me . :)

I can't imagine how difficult this was to make .

There appears to be a sepuhan(?) halfway up the wilah .

An old keris .

David 13th April 2012 06:14 AM

Very lovely.... :)

Gustav 13th April 2012 11:39 AM

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A nice keris indeed. Only pamor on gonjo is a little bit out of control.

Here a Riau keris with Adeg Wengkon. Sometimes you encounter Sumatran and Peninsula kerisses with some difficult kind of Pamor, which is fairly well done.

David 13th April 2012 04:22 PM

Nice example Gustav. Unusual work for this type of keris. :)

drdavid 13th April 2012 11:56 PM

Lovely Keris Gustav
Very unusual

Any chance of some more images Rick

drdavid

Rick 14th April 2012 12:57 AM

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Lovely Keris Gustav
Very unusual

Any chance of some more images Rick

drdavid

The other side and wrongko . :)

Pendok, hilt and mendak are all old .

Karttikeya 14th April 2012 06:02 AM

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Well executed Adeg Wengkon..I don't want to comment its making process because I am no more than keris lover. I have shared a blade with interesting pamor, probably anybody can tell me what is pamor's name.

Marcokeris 14th April 2012 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick
The other side and wrongko . :)

Pendok, hilt and mendak are all old .

Beautiful keris in beautiful dress :eek:

Jean 14th April 2012 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick
The other side and wrongko . :)

Pendok, hilt and mendak are all old .

Very nice kris but from the pictures the tikel alis? and pejetan look a bit odd, may be just an impression.
Regards

drdavid 14th April 2012 12:53 PM

Thanks Rick, elegance is the best word to describe this. The pendok works beautifully
drdavid

Rick 14th April 2012 04:56 PM

I'm glad you like it . :)
The repousse work on the pendok is quite detailed compared to newer examples .

David 14th April 2012 06:41 PM

Karttikeya, might i suggest that you start a new thread for your keris. Since it is not a adeg wengkon pamor it seems a bit out of place in this discussion.

David 14th April 2012 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean
Very nice kris but from the pictures the tikel alis? and pejetan look a bit odd, may be just an impression.
Regards

Jean, i am uncertain exactly what you mean by odd (size?shape?position?altered?), but i think that the way the pamor lies in both these areas coupled with the way the keris has been photographed might might be a little misleading as to the actual form. :shrug:
Rick, can you take some close-ups of this area? :)

Rick 14th April 2012 08:04 PM

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Sure David . :)
The details seem fairly typical of Jogja work .
The pamor does confuse the eye .
Note the different color of the core material .

dbhmgb 14th April 2012 11:19 PM

Hello, this is my first post and, Rick, I wanted to tell you that your keris and its dress is very attractive! I like it very much.

Rick 14th April 2012 11:42 PM

Hi and welcome to the warung ! :)
I'm glad you like the keris .

David 15th April 2012 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dbhmgb
Hello, this is my first post and, Rick, I wanted to tell you that your keris and its dress is very attractive! I like it very much.

Hey Dan, welcome to the forum. I think you will like it here. Be sure to read the forum guideline carefully though... ;) :)

dbhmgb 15th April 2012 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by David
Hey Dan, welcome to the forum. I think you will like it here. Be sure to read the forum guideline carefully though... ;) :)

Hello David and thanks for the welcome! I'll read it again, just to be sure!

Jean 15th April 2012 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick
Sure David . :)
The details seem fairly typical of Jogja work .
The pamor does confuse the eye .
Note the different color of the core material .

Hi Rick,
Thanks for the detailed pictures of the sorsoran, very nice.
What I meant by "odd" from the original pictures is that because of the tikel alis the pamor line is wider on the gandik, and the pejetan does not look perfecty symmetrical, but it is not a big deal. :)
Regards

Rick 16th April 2012 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jean
Hi Rick,
Thanks for the detailed pictures of the sorsoran, very nice.
What I meant by "odd" from the original pictures is that because of the tikel alis the pamor line is wider on the gandik, and the pejetan does not look perfecty symmetrical, but it is not a big deal. :)
Regards

I agree, Jean; not a big deal . :)
In the hand it is a bit better .

Rick

Sajen 16th April 2012 08:33 PM

I like you keris very much Rick, thank you for sharing! :)

And as well thank's to Gustav for showing this beautiful Bugis keris!

Regards,

Detlef

Jussi M. 11th June 2012 11:03 PM

Worth a bump!

Rick 12th June 2012 01:35 AM

Well, I still like it very much, Jussi . ;)

I think the dress has a nice combined 'presence' ; in keeping with the quality of the Wilah . :)

I guess when I look at The Solyums' book and I see the size of the rough forging required, then think that somewhere in there when this particular blade was forged was pre-planned this keris ...

Well then I am in awe ... :eek:

Hartadi 17th June 2012 05:38 PM

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another technic of wengkon, it was pain to see the edge of blade splitted out already : :(

Sajen 17th June 2012 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hartadi
another technic of wengkon, it was pain to see the edge of blade splitted out already : :(


Still beautiful!! :)

Gustav 17th June 2012 08:38 PM

Good pamor work, yet looks to me like a new keris artificially (and aggressively) aged.

A pity, it would be not a bad keris in original state.

A. G. Maisey 18th June 2012 01:20 AM

The Hartadi keris, Gustav?

Yes, in the pics it does look recent, but I don't think it is.

I cannot know with any certainty from the pics and would need to handle it, but there are a number of stylistic characteristics that are at variance with current production keris. It would not surprise me if this keris does have a bit of age.

Hartadi 18th June 2012 02:32 AM

the wengkon's on my blade is firmly borded vertical arround pamor. thats why on some point we can see clearly the space (gap) between pamor, wengkon, and the iron

Gustav, i'm agree with Alan that mine is the old blade. splitted iron is on the edge (pucukan) will attached some more pics in advance

Hartadi 18th June 2012 02:43 AM

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some pictures


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