Timor
 

I swapped a fair bit to get this. Is it from Timor? It is certianly more me than what I swapped.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ppy/NEW022.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ppy/NEW024.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ppy/NEW023.jpg

Bagobo kampilan?

I have to second what Ariel said , Bagobo or maybe T'Boli

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...l/bagobo3B.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...l/bagobo6B.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...withswordB.jpg

This is my one. Arzi describe it as T'boli kampilan.
http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=2037
Regards
Paolo

I think to the tip of the scabbard. :confused: Bagobo ?
Paolo

Thanks chaps, very helpful. I am on shaky ground this far east. I swapped quite a nice silvery thing and a few over scabbard-less bits. He did well?, I did well? :confused: All in, this is more me. There was hair sticking out of the two things at the bottom of the scabbard, a few bits of stubble left. I think it is probably early 20th century.

I remember reading that one of them more commonly had the bells or beads on the end of the hilt. The other group more commonly has no beads/bells. But for the life of me I cannot remember if it is T'boli or Bagobo that has which. Someone here will know maybe Ian will see this soon. Both I think can have scabbards like this.

Also I am not sure if this would be a kampilan or a bangkung. Where Paolo's link fits the kampilan form better.

A T'boli sword in the HOS catelogue can be seen here
http://www.arscives.com/historysteel.../196-jca03.jpg

It is T'boli. The T'bolo make all there handles and bells out of brass using lost wax method. The Bagobo do not make this same type of small bell. Rhysmichael is right in that both can have scabbard ends like this. If you etch the blade you may get a pattern in it. It is pretty close to complete. A nice piece.

By the way - the T'boli piece that is in the link is mine that I loaned to the exhibit. :)

Thanks for clearing up which was which. And that is a nice example that was on display in the exhibit.

Any input on if the one here should be called a kampilan or a bangkung ?

THERE IS A GOOD POST ON THESE IN THE OLD ARCHIVES IF I REMEMBER CORECTLY THE FANCY TIBOLI SWORDS WERE REFERED TO AS A TOK .

I would just like to thank you all again. You have provided enough information for me to make a basic search and make better evaluation of the swap. He got a smart looking thing and the two other bits were okay. I got the piece that is far more rare :cool: . Thanks.

Hi Tim,
Here's one with a price.
http://www.eriksedge.com/PH191.html
rgds.
fernando

Thanks for the link Fernando. I think the odds were only just in his favour but the big Trumbash even though a nice spear went and some money, more than makes up any difference. I am reasonably happy I think :rolleyes: The main thing is too enjoy visiting a friend and talk, swap and dream weapons and bargains. :cool:

IMHO, I think you got the better end of the deal. :D