LONDON CALLING
 

BUSINESS AS USUAL :mad:

Tim,

Our thoughts are with you and your countrymen.

Sincerely,
Tim

Been there.

Thanks for making us know from you. I, for one, appreciate it.

Our thoughts are indeed with all of you.

Hello all.

My depest sympaties to the British people. I was shocked to hear this on the BBC:America today. Hopefully all the fourm members in that area are alright.

Sincerely,
Mark G. Cooper-II

london is chaos today! the bad thing is there is no mobile (cell) phone reception, so its hard to call friends and family to make sure everyones ok.
all i can say, with respect to those that died, is that we were very lucky. anyone who knows london during rushour will know the crazy amount of people in a very small area. up to now, there is 33 dead with a few of the bomb casualty numbers unkown as yet.

We feel with you.

Jens

A sad day
 

To Tim and all our Fellow Forumites in Britain:

Our sympathy and condolences for all those killed and injured. The killing of innocent civilians in the name of whatever cause cannot be condoned, whether it is done by "terrorists" or others. This is not a form of behavior consistent with any religious principles that I have encountered in my global travels. Those who perform these acts in the name of a greater authority have lost their way. Violence cannot solve the problems they see in the world.

Ian.

Dear Ian,

I believe discussions concerning religions are completely improper on this forum, as far as they do not concern weapons directly.

In my experience, for example, nearly _every_ religion has some 1st-10th century saint, teacher or prophet preaching death to unbelievers.

Well one religion will certainly be blamed for this mess, I tell you that.

My deepest sympathies go to all British people. :(

OK, on topic then:
 

Mars=Roman god of war
breed of men=ethnography

—William Shakespeare
Richard II (Act 2, Scene 1)

I happened to be in London just a week or so ago, and when I was leaving it, the last thing I thought was that it would become a scene of horror and chaos. My symapthies to all the victims and their relatives.

Thanks all
 

I would like thank everyone, we are British, and as I said business as usual so we move on. Tim

Hi All!

These terrorists are a discrase to the Islamic faith and they are cowards to hid behind religon. Has anyone heard if they found out if they were package bombs or scuicide bombers yet?

My thoughts and best wishes go out to our British members, and the families, friends and victims of today's horrible attack in London.

Let's please keep this thread clear of religious or political discussions. Thanks. :(

I would like to join in offering my sincerest condolences to our British friends in this all too familiar act of cowardice. Although this event is of course not associated with our usual topics of discussion, we are compelled to express our reaction to this tragedy.
I agree we should avoid discussion or reference to religious perspective, while noting that terrorism and fanaticism truly have nothing to do with religion.

With deepest sympathy,
Jim

My sympathies are certainly with the people of London too.

I also have to express my respect for the ways the English are dealing with this tragedy. I've been through enough disasters to know that they often bring out the best in people, and that's certainly happened in London.

With sympathy and respect,

F

I am saddened and outraged by the cowardly acts of terrorism.

My thoughts and prayers are with the people of London.

Steve Ferguson

My condolences as well. I love London and have good friends there that I am still waiting to hear from. The two American girls that were injured were sisters traveling there on holiday - they are from my church here in far away TN. They are both going to be okay. A small world, it touches us all.

Good attitude, Tim. Carry on without fear, just vigilance.

-d

I'm truly sorry to hear about that. I wish speedy recovery to them and all people affected. To the English people as a whole I would wish what they wish for themselves.

Speedy and complete recovery to the kids .
The world is indeed very small, both space and time-wise....
Year and a half ago, I had breakfast in a Jerusalem cafe that was rebuilt after a suicide bombing about a year earlier (I think, some 20 were killed), and the following week I had a quick lunch in a cafe in Tel Aviv, that was suicide-bombed 3 weeks later, also with a lot of casualties....
There used to be "good neighborhoods" and "bad neighborhoods" in the world; now the rabid dogs prowl every street. We are all in the same boat these days....

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I posted the Union Flag here in Michigan yesterday. I have not yet had the pleasure of visiting London, but I might as well be there for the forseeable future.

Best regards to the People of London,

Greg

Sorry about my comment its just some of my freind are muslims and I get angery when terrorists do stuff like this. Once again the British people are in my prayers. Once again I am sorry about the comment.

I like to add my heartfelt condolences to the people of London and Britain.

The London tube and double decker bus were both my first tube and double decker bus experiences over 3 decades ago. So many times I've been to King's cross and how utterly sad to learn of these attacks only after less than 24 hours of London's triumph to host the 2012 Olympics.

Deepest sympathy to those affected and those in other parts of the globe affected under similar circumstances.

Condolences
 

My belated condolences,

I have friends who regularly travel on the tube by the very same stations. Makes me wonder why we never give peace a chance.

Hi Tim
Let me here present the deeppest condolences from my family and certainly from all my countrymen and women, to the families of those gone.
Keep up,we are with you.

40 years of it...........they will not win this.....
 

I was in London during the Blitz. Since then the UK has suffered 30 years of Terror bombs by semi religious and political groups. The IRA supported by ex.pats in north Amreica. Arab bombers and now it seems Homegrown {Leeds} English of Pakistani families.

I have to say that this may well ignite all sorts of internal problems, these are no longer the Bader Meinhoff or Red Brigade, we are now dealing with perhaps generations of young men who hate us on two levels......Our society & Our political systems.
For the first time they have the technology to wage sophisticated Guerrela war on a world wide basis.
The Brits can take this, we are used to it. I am humbled by the forgiveness that is shown by victims as well as the defiance........we always visited London and other cities during the Irish problem. Flew to Russia in the midst of the Chechin bombs, cant let these mad people see that the TRUE Brits of whatever Colour,Race,religion or creed will be beaten into a single form of submission and God help the politician who moves in that direction.

Hi Grey:

The resilience and toughness of the British people is indeed legendary when it comes to hardships like this latest one. It is a sad reflection on human behavior that the greatest threats usually come from those within our own society than from outside. We will need to wait for the investigations to sort out who did what.

Forgiveness, rather than revenge, is the sign of a strong and mature culture which has come to terms with the futility of endless cycles of violence, retaliation, more violence, more retaliation, etc. that was the hallmark of the troubles in Ireland.

As an Australian I have always been proud of my (distant) British heritage, and especially under serious stress like this. It would be a great tonic for the British people if England could win back the Ashes from Australia this year, but I have to tell you -- it's not going to happen. ;) :D

Ian.

:rolleyes:
Just a final comment......."Ashes". Now when you teach your kids a game,it would not be the right thing to trash them at that game would it?, no of course not,let em win occasionally then beat the crap out of em just to sort out the arrogance>......... :cool: :rolleyes:

hey, we are the greatest inventors of sports in the world. just because we 'let' other win now and then (ok, more 'now' than 'then', it doesnt mean we cant if we wanted to. its just the english sense of fair play, taken to extremes. we are just politely letting others win our games for a few decades to lull them into a false sense of security and then...... :)

Sepang:

Please check your PM's before posting on this thread again.

Andrew

Dear Friends,

As many of you know I hold rather extreme views on islam and religions in genreal, in fact I'm somewhat of Ataturkist when it comes to this point.

Why am I saying this ? As many of you I feel the need to express my opinion, sometimes it almost wants to cry out from inside of me, but I believe that we all must hold it inside, and not to express anything like this on this forum, unless we want a really big fight. Not that this big fight would be a big thing, it's just there is so much else here to discuss.

Sincerely yours,

Kirill Rivkin

Kirill's advice is good.

If we cannot keep this thread free of political or religious discussion, I will have to lock it.

This is definitely not something I want to do, as I think it is important to be able to discuss these things in our small (yet Global) community of ethnographic weapon enthusiasts. This thread is not strictly "on topic", but we are all human beings here. Let's please not stray into discussions which can only be divisive.

Thank you. :(

Perhaps to put a finer point on it: Completely apart from the well-established policies of this forum, it is just plain inappropriate to digress into controversy here. This thread was started to express our sorrow and the event, and condolences to our British friends (and all others) who are affected by it. This is not something that requires either political or religious editorializing, and the spirit of solidarity and compassion that has propted this thread requires that it be avoided at all costs. Out of respect for the victoms and their families, please exercise restraint.

it was the 2 minute silence yesterday, out of respect for those that died. i was walking along when everyone stepped out from their shops/offices and onto the streets of london to show their respect. it was very subdued, and when over, people just carried on with their lives, without saying a word to anyone.
this manner is very english and some people cannot understand or misinterperate it for something else.
in spain, they feel we should be grieving more openly and showing images of the carnage, and questioning our government for putting us in this position. this was thier way and not ours, but it doesnt mean we were any less effected by what happened.
as tim says, its business as usual and this is not a cold attitude, just one borne from not showing our weakness to others and ploughing on.
i am glad this post resisted opinions, as they were not needed nor asked for. all thoughts and wishes were greatly recieved.

Please, Brian, out of the deepest of respects, I would like to say something, if no one minds...

Don't let the words of a few mislead you. If there's anything that it's being felt in Spain regarding this situation, I can assure you that it's nothing else than the most heartfelt sympathy for the British people, and an overwhelming feeling of solidarity. I can assure you people here has suffered for and with London these days.
Our nations may have had their differences, from the distant and from the recent past. But that means nothing, now. When the madness strikes as it has done, in the hearth of our lands, with such blind hatred, there's nothing left but the shared pain, the shared horror... and the shared resolution to Carry On and Not Yielding.
Beyond frontiers, races and creeds, we let our hearts fly to our fellow Human Beings to share with them these moments.

No one has the right to tell anyone how one has to wear its Grieving. Everbody cries in its own way.

And all the rest is trying to stick politics where they don't belong.


P.D. If the moderators feel that this post in any way departs from the spirit of this thread, I beg you to delete it. And I mean it. Thank you.

I started this and have enjoyed all the support and thank everyone , who knows how may be next, world wide but can we bring it to an end and move on . Thanks Tim

Absolutely,all has been said,now for most of us should return,we are off to London to the V&A {One of my favourite places}, just a couple of days when we can moan about the condition of the pavements,cost of Taxi's & Hotels. Then off to Glasgow to stay with a collector/friend {Police Sgt} where we shall moan about the Sottish debate on edged weapons and cost of Whiskey...........
Beat that........ :)