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Pirate Kukri- Nepalese Naval Kukri?
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As per Jim's request. Merry Christmas all and a Happy New Year!!
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WOW! Now thats some grouping BJ!!! Thank you so much.
Those cutlasses and naval pieces are very well placed along with the pirate thread, and that kukri is definitely fascinating. Spiral....come in please! Anybody out there got a copy of Gilkerson?!! |
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ALL THIS PEACES ARE MARVELLOUS, BUT THE KUKRIE IS PERFECT!!!
CONGRATULATIONS!! CARLOS |
Great fun looks Nice! :D perhaps made for a European in the late 19th early or 20th century I guess or quite likely a marrige, but could not comment seriosly without good closeups & specs. I like it though! ;)
Nepali Hindus dont like the dark sea though, it destroys there soul & eliminates there caste position & risks them entering there own form of purgatory. There sea sickness is legendary. There true landlubbers. ;) I suspect The only Navy in Nepal has a 2 man canoe on a melting glacial stream though & possibly a rubber dinghy on a jungle stream in the monsoon! :eek: Nice assortment of goodies! Spiral |
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Happy Christmas
Nepal is a land locked country? I think the comments were made in good humour? I think this is the nearest thing to a Himalayan conection to the sea and navy?
http://www.navy.gov.au/spc/history/ships/nepal.html |
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Easy goes it, Arny. Spiral has demonstrated great respect for and knowlege of the Nepalese people on this forum in the past. I suspect you are misinterpreting his comments as insults. Take a look at his prior posts before taking offense... |
[QUOTE=Arny]Spiral, are you into slagging Nepalese people on a sword chat room?
Chat room :eek: :eek: :eek: no never!!! |
Another Navy sounding even stranger than the Nepalese one is..
AUSTRO-HUNGARIAN!!! :D :D And, nevertheless, they have their tradition and heroic tales to tell: http://www.stile.coventry.ac.uk/cbs/...navy/index.htm |
Lighten up guys. A Nepalese navy is akin to the Swiss navy.
Cheers bbjw |
Thankyou chaps for your awarness of the situation.
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I know Christmas is a difficult time for many people Arny. But Ill deal with your points one by one, assiuming you posted them with some thought & meaning. Quote:
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Not sure what part of my post you actually objected to? was it all of it? Ill try a few guesses as you were unable to be precise in your objections. 1, "Nepali Hindus dont like the dark sea though, it destroys there soul & eliminates there caste position & risks them entering there own form of purgatory." Is a true statement. 2,There sea sickness is legendary. There true landlubbers. This is recorded in numerous ww1 records & books, the genetic strengths which are many do not usually include bieng seafarers. {Look up Nepalese seamen on the net.} 3,I suspect The only Navy in Nepal has a 2 man canoe on a melting glacial stream though & possibly a rubber dinghy on a jungle stream in the monsoon! was tounge in cheek humour, but its also virtualy the truth. Although according to Gillian Holdsworth they also have a pedadillo painted in military camouflage! :eek: reference. linky I suggest you Learn a little more about a country you have family in & its geography, religion & customs before commenting so rashly & incorrectly on my comments again. Thankyou, Have a good Christmas! :) Spiral |
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Have we been demoted to that from a serious and friendly discussion forum on weapons? Was we 'slagged' ? Ouch. BTW....this note is meant as a humorous personal expression, perhaps we need to add disclaimers to avoid misunderstandings! |
I love to see others use the old English collquilisms that myself & expect Tim grew up with.
Especialy by the more educated Americans whos English is more usualy much better than mine usualy! {& there spelling deffinatly is!} "You was all slagged jim, the `king puppy , layed it on the line like gospel for you like blind men after a fish on a wednesday, realy I reckons it is, but you know the score anyhow, so its drinks all round later realy innit ,you old 1917-18 worldwar merchant .." ;) :D Spiral {with multiple disclaimers.} ;) |
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Your meds runnin' low spiral? :) Jeff |
`King Christmas always brings them out of the woodwork... :rolleyes:
You will feel better after new year I expect Jeff. ;) :D spiral :) |
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Merry Christmas to you and yours Jeff P.S. You can get bubble packs now :) |
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Don't patronize me Spiral. It was a childish comment out of line for this type of forum. A. |
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O I see Arny after 15 posts youve decided to vote yourself to head moderater have you? A now you decide whats acceptable comment & humour & whats not on this forum? Luckily thats just in your jumped up fantasy, not in real life.. Which of course means your thoughts & comments on this issue are of are of no consequence to anyone outside of your own head. Spiral |
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Where is your Kwanzaa spirit? :D :D |
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You wish me harm, now! :D :D :D Spiral |
Arny, it is you who is out of line. I rarely, if ever, take sides in a sandbox squabble, but in this case one party is clearly over-reacting and unreasonable, and that party is you. Granted, spiral's joking about Nepal might have been a bit tactless, but that does not make it offensive. It is not "out of bounds" for this forum. Get a sense of humor, or get a ban. Your choice.
I suggest getting this tread back on topic. Otherwise it will be locked and "purged" of the BS. |
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It not just the edged weapons on this forum that are 'sharp'......the wit can be also :) ;)
"Humor is a serious thing. I like to think of it as one of our greatest earliest natural resources, which must be preserved at all cost." ....... James Thurber "Humor is a universal language." ..........Joel Goodman "A person without a sense of humour is like a wagon without springs. It's jolted by every pebble on the road." ...Henry Ward Beecher "If I had no sense of humour, I would long ago have committed suicide." ... Mahatma Gandhi Regards David Quote:
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THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR AND THE USE OF 4 LETTER WORDS ONLY IDENTIFIES A TROLL . HE IS NOT HERE TO LEARN AND SHARE ONLY TO STIR THINGS UP AND WILL BE NO LOSS TO THE FORUM AS HE HAS NOTHING TO CONTRIBUTE HERE EXCEPT BILE. :mad:
ITS KIND OF FUNNY AS I HAVE NEVER USED THE RED THUMBS DOWN BUT IF HE WAS IN THE ARENA IN OLD ROME I AM SURE THE DOWNTURNED THUMB WOULD SURELY BE HIS FATE. :p |
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When one plays ( so often ) with humor, he must be qualifyed on its extent, to put it that way. Having said that, i am quite surprised why this thread wasn't locked before it got so low gauged. |
I asked BJ to post some examples of cutlasses in line with the pirate weapons thread which has proven most interesting, and he was kind enough to post these superb weapons, which include a kukri. Naturally the kukri itself is not known as a naval weapon, but the course of this thread should have been to identify the weapons overall and share thoughts and observations. The sheet metal guard on the kukri is clearly variant, and although suggesting many of the naval sheet metal guards on cutlasses, cannot be proven as having maritime connections without some provenance indicating that.
As we have seen, what might have been a worthwhile discussion digressed into a rather pathetic and disappointing display of unfortunate behavior. Hopefully this may serve as a textbook example of how not to behave on a forum. My compliments to those who remained gentlemen during this regretful display. Jim |
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if Arny objected to my comment {s} {he didnt actualy say what he objected to. Another classic troll tactic.} , fair enough thats fine, he could of said so, withort resorting to terms like "Childish" & "stupid" He was just looking to make me angry so he could have a fight with him playing a moral stance. It didnt work as ive spoken to trolls before & learnt my lesson hopefully, although I must admit I do respond to them, just not in the way they want. So he persits with insults & obscenities to both myself & a moderater to get a fight going. Appologies Bruce, Jim , Mark & evryone else, for bieng part of the trivia in this thread, drawing it away from part its correct focus on occasion.I felt I had to respond though. Anyway lets get back to the history of the Nepali Naval weapons! Perhaps Arny can share some examples? Spiral |
Hi Spiral
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It is not humor that has to be qualified, but the person who delivers it. We must take into account the level of culture, religion or stupidity of the person or persons susceptible to be reached by it. Those are the delicate issues, not the fineness of humor itself. If it is poor, the delivered can only laugh of the deliverer. Also if he doesn't like to swallow it and he is well educated, he will just have to put aside in the plate. Education is from the one who practises it, not from the one who deserves it. I have once read a certain quotation, that said more or less the following: allways avoid to go down arguing with a low grade person; he is in his natural environment, hence he will destroy you. Fernando |
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I like this version too :cool: |
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Yes, you are banned. Good riddance. |
Let's get back on track, gents.
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Thankyou Fernando/ Berkley.
Good quotes, not realy relevent though to trolls making accusations of Racialism, theft, paedophila, murder, fraud or treason etc.etc. I think.. Personaly I belive "a lie unchalenged will often be believed." JRS {spiral.} 2007. And as such I will always defend myself & others against malicious allegations. If I hadnt done so Arny wouldnt have revealed himself even further & then been banned. I hope you never are put in the position where you have to do the same. The Sidelines are easyer. Sorry Andrew for the further off topic piece. If I could come up with something about the Nepalese Naval weaponary I would. Ive tried but I cant. Cheers, Spiral |
Back on track
My "naval" kukri that I posted looks and feels like it would have been a formidable shipboard weapon. My best guess would be that Brit sailor had it made up and I would date it to probably around WW1. When I saw it I had to have it for the naval cutlass part of my collection. Of course it also goes well with my humble kukri assemblage.
Best Wishes to all in 2008! Cheers bbjw |
MOST SOCIETYS WHERE THE TRADITION WAS TO HIRE OUT YOUR SERVICES AS A WARRIOR, BODYGAURD OR GUIDE HAD A CODE OF LOYALTY TO THEIR EMPLOYER AND OFTEN A STRONG BOND WAS FORMED BETWEEN THE TWO.
THESE PEOPLE WOULD LAY DOWN THEIR LIVES TO UPHOLD THEIR HONOR AND DO THEIR JOB AND WOULD FOLLOW THE BOSS TO HELL IF NECESSARY TO UPHOLD THAT HONOR. SO IT COULD BE POSSIBLE FOR SUCH A PERSON TO GO TO SEA IF NEED BE EVEN THOUGH PERPETUAL SEA SICKNESS WOULD INDEED BE A FORM OF HELL. THE ASSOCIATION BETWEEN THE BRITISH AND NEPAL AS WELL AS MANY OTHER COUNTRYS, AND BRITAN'S PRESENCE IN THE WORLDS SEAS SURELY LED TO MANY STRANGE CREWS SO THE PRESENCE OF A NEPALESE PIRATE OR SAILOR IS EASILY POSSIBLE. |
I think yours is a pretty plausible assessment BJ, and I think variants like this in theme groupings like your cutlasses are outstanding!!! It is very clear that the kukri became a well established item of military ordnance by the mid nineteenth century, and these were certainly well known in Bengal, which had considerable maritime activity. While certainly not regulation, any sailor aboard merchant vessels who furnished thier own weapons might have had something like this commissioned.
All very best regards, Jim |
That sounds very plausible to me BBJW. It certanly is a fascinating piece & would certanly be usefull in a close quater fight, that one would see at sea.
A boarding kukri perhaps! spiral |
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