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Battara 30th April 2015 01:57 AM

My mistake and apologies for moving to the wrong forum. :o

Continue to discuss amongst yourselves.............

rickystl 25th May 2015 08:09 PM

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Hello all. Two more flasks I forgot to include the first time around. One is especially interesting.

1) Typical Indo-Persian, small priming flask most of us are familiar with. It looks iron in the photos, but is all brass and in working order. Needs a proper cleaning.
2) This is one of the most interesting priming flask that I own. And I've never seen another one like it. It appears to be Ottoman. And is "spring loaded". Hold your finger on top of the spout, hold upside down and press inward. Keeping your finger over the spout, release the spring tension, and the spout fills with a small amount of priming powder. And it works fine. There are two holes in the shaft to allow the powder to enter the spout. But there are also two very tiny holes in the shaft to eliminate a vacuum while operating.
Spring loaded flask were common in North America and Europe. But this is the first Ottoman style I've ever seen. Very neat.
Rick.

rickystl 25th May 2015 08:11 PM

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More pics........

rickystl 25th May 2015 08:22 PM

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And here are two new arrivals.
1) A typical Persian Barut Dan, medium size flask. All brass with the low grade silver/white metal embelishment. All solid and in working condition. Unfortunately, missing one of it's carrying rings. :mad:
2) This is a tiny priming flask from......I don't know where. But the engraving looks somewhat Moroccan (?) :shrug: And I don't believe it's very old. But it's in perfect working order and will make a nice, more authentic addition to my Moroccan long gun while at the shooting range. LOL :rolleyes:
Rick.

rickystl 25th May 2015 08:23 PM

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The other tiny one........

Ibrahiim al Balooshi 27th May 2015 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kahnjar1
Could be either but there is a huge distance between the two places. Balutchistan (a part of Pakistan) borders modern day Iran which of course was called Persia......a VERY long way from Oman.
The fact that the pic shows mostly Omani objects does not CONCLUSIVELY mean that they are ALL Omani.
Stone's Glossary shows this general shape as being from Persia and another similar shape as being from Sudan, so perhaps the shape was a rather universal one in the greater region............
IBRAHIIM WE NEED YOUR HELP PLEASE
Stu

Salaams Khanjar1 ..Late reply... I missed this entire thread. Your point is good. Oman owned a small swathe of Baluchistan which it sold back to Pakistan in 1950. This was the area around Gwadur seaport. As part of the deal Oman was allowed to continue to recruit Baluch soldiers for Oman up until today...There is an entire tribe in Oman called al Baluch. They stretch all the way down the Baatinah coast and are numerous in Buraimi and Muscat.
The absolutely Omani powder flask is as you have in your collection with silver work throughout and on a chain and often attached to a leather strap and worn around the neck. The second type is a wooden one that you also show often with a silver chain and cover.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

VANDOO 30th May 2015 03:25 AM

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#1. VARIOUS 19TH CENTURY LEATHER POWDER FLASKS
#2. VARIOUS EASTERN POWDER FLASKS.

kahnjar1 30th May 2015 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by VANDOO
#1. VARIOUS 19TH CENTURY LEATHER POWDER FLASKS
#2. VARIOUS EASTERN POWDER FLASKS.

Hi Barry,
Not being "picky".....top pic......the two on the left of the pic are Powder Flasks, the others are shot flasks. All in nice condition by the look of them.
LOVE the Middle Eastern group in the second pic :) :)
Stu

Ibrahiim al Balooshi 10th June 2015 05:19 PM

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More Powder Flasks

rickystl 20th June 2015 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by VANDOO
#1. VARIOUS 19TH CENTURY LEATHER POWDER FLASKS
#2. VARIOUS EASTERN POWDER FLASKS.

Hi Vandoo.
WOW!! What a nice collection of powder/shot flasks. Very good!
Rick.

Kubur 9th March 2016 08:01 PM

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What is this?

Ibrahiim al Balooshi 10th March 2016 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Kubur
What is this?


Salaams Kubur... This looks like Indian paintwork...Rajastan? on a camel skin gunpowder holder...said to be male the Camel organ..!
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

corrado26 10th March 2016 11:40 AM

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Here are a powderflask made in Brescia ca. 1600 and an oriental bulletcontainer from my collection
corrado26

Kurt 10th March 2016 03:26 PM

Here are some from the Caucasus.
 
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These small containers are for priming powder.
Best Kurt

Ibrahiim al Balooshi 30th May 2016 05:55 PM

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Powder Flasks and Containers. The cartridge shaped items are Russian. The orange coloured teardrop flask with silver rectangles inside a black backround is Japanese Edo Period. :shrug:

Ibrahiim al Balooshi 4th June 2016 11:10 AM

Akali Sikh warriors
 
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Here is a picture with the participants; A Sikh group wearing War Quoits on special head dress... :shrug: Note one has a nice powder flask on his belt.

Kubur 4th June 2016 06:19 PM

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Hi Ibrahim,

Another one, from Yemen, I guess from Hadramawt...

Best,

Drabant1701 21st June 2016 05:32 PM

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This is a 19th century Ottoman powder flask that I own. Its missing the top piece and there are som loss to the decoration. Despite the faults I really like this flask, someone put a lot of work and effort into making it.

Kubur 21st June 2016 08:46 PM

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Look I have the little sister...
But your is much better... Congratulations!

Kubur 14th August 2016 07:37 AM

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Just for our database (not mine, just sold recently)
Primer flask, South Arabian, Yemen

Ibrahiim al Balooshi 19th October 2016 07:20 PM

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I spotted a couple of interesting powder flasks; Two nice Central Asian flasks(Barutdan) with exotic surface style ...one with a birdshead and eye of Turquoise...I show two moon shaped (Talahiq) of Oman...and one interesting Gourd design(Barutluk) with Turkoman style decoration. The black barutdan with studs is Persian :shrug:

kahnjar1 19th October 2016 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi
I spotted a couple of interesting powder flasks; Two nice Central Asian flasks(Barutdan) with exotic surface style ...one with a birdshead and eye of Turquoise...I show two moon shaped (Talahiq) of Oman...and one interesting Gourd design(Barutluk) with Turkoman style decoration. The black barutdan with studs is Persian :shrug:

Nice group Ibrahiim.
The gourd I think now we all agree is in fact a Tobacco/Snuff flask, rather than for priming powder, though it could well do both jobs. See this link http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=21994
Here are two more also included here for library purposes.
Stu

fernando 19th October 2016 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kahnjar1
...The gourd I think now we all agree is in fact a Tobacco/Snuff flask, rather than for priming powder ...

Yes, i have been through such experience as well, with a local seller. I managed to returned them, though, as the deal was based on an actual powder flask basis :shrug:.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi 20th October 2016 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kahnjar1
Nice group Ibrahiim.
The gourd I think now we all agree is in fact a Tobacco/Snuff flask, rather than for priming powder, though it could well do both jobs. See this link http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=21994
Here are two more also included here for library purposes.
Stu


Yes I was aware of the detail outlined by Oliver Pinchot but I found this on Imperial Arms as a sold item as I recall... It has its own name Barutluk.(Barut being gun powder...)..and is decorated in Turkoman design so it is certainly Central Asian ... Imperial describe it as for gunpowder. Certainly the other smaller exotic designed items are well documented but I thought to include this Gourd for comments...

I was looking across Forum and at http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=21994 it quite nicely explains these as snuff boxes...which is a powder...thus easily confusable...though I wouldnt like to mix the two things up!!

Drabant1701 10th May 2017 06:26 PM

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It has been some time since someone added to this interesting thread, so I am resurrecting it with another heart shaped turkish powder flask from my collection. It is most likely from around 1800 and made out of wood with brass decoration. The stopper is bone or horn.

BANDOOK 11th May 2017 12:30 PM

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RARE NEW ZEALAND MAORI MUSKET WARS POWDER HORN IN MY COLLECTION,HAS PLUG MADE OF DEER ANTLER AND HAS SILVER AND OTHER SIDE WOODEN PLUG ,REGARDS RAJESH

BANDOOK 11th May 2017 12:40 PM

MOROCCON POWDER HORNS
 
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HERE ARE 2 OF MY MOROCCON POWDER HORNS,CHEERS

Ibrahiim al Balooshi 11th May 2017 02:10 PM

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The Omani Talahiq gunpowder flask worn in the correct position ...

fernando 11th May 2017 02:39 PM

Three in one ...
 
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Hi guys,
Does this one fit in here ... a rather worn Portuguese rural hunting leather belt with its shot flask and powder horn.
I wouldn't doubt this set has seen a lot of 'action'.

.

corrado26 11th May 2017 04:08 PM

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Here are two powder flask of my collection. The iron one was used for the priming powder, the bone one is rather hard for me to date and I 'd appriciate comments.
corrado26


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