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Sajen 28th June 2009 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by erikscollectables
Here is another panjang.

It is not mine but I do have it hone at the moment. The owner asked me to sell this one for him but I am tempted to buy it myself.

Expect to get another one that I already did buy last week.
As soon as it is here I will upload a picture.

Regards, Erik

Hi Erik,
buy it! It's a nice complete example, only the tips of the wrangka are broken.
sajen

ganjawulung 29th June 2009 06:44 AM

My Goodness,
... anytime if I want to see good examples of keris panjang, then I must go to Europe. Not to Suimatra anymore.

Thanks Erik, and Sajen for the picture sharing.

GANJAWULUNG

Sajen 29th June 2009 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ganjawulung
My Goodness,
... anytime if I want to see good examples of keris panjang, then I must go to Europe. Not to Suimatra anymore.

Thanks Erik, and Sajen for the picture sharing.

GANJAWULUNG

Dear Pak Ganja,

nothing to thank. And your examples also very nice.

sajen

erikscollectables 29th June 2009 07:20 PM

Pak Ganja also many thanks to you for sharing these great examples!
One question my example had a ship made of horn, not wood.
Is this common with the crescent shaped ships?
The ukiran is of wood which I think in most examples is made of horn?

Regards, Erik

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen
Dear Pak Ganja,

nothing to thank. And your examples also very nice.

sajen


Sajen 29th June 2009 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erikscollectables
Pak Ganja also many thanks to you for sharing these great examples!
One question my example had a ship made of horn, not wood.
Is this common with the crescent shaped ships?
The ukiran is of wood which I think in most examples is made of horn?

Regards, Erik


Hello Erik,

no, it isn't found so much that the wrangka is from horn, a second reason to buy it. And yes, the handles most of the time from horn.
My both big examples have handles from horn while the wrangkas from wood.

Regards,

sajen

ganjawulung 30th June 2009 03:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by erikscollectables
One question my example had a ship made of horn, not wood.
Is this common with the crescent shaped ships?
The ukiran is of wood which I think in most examples is made of horn?

Ship? Do you mean the upper part of the sheath? IMHO, the common material is wood. But I have some upper-part warangkas which are made of horn, with fine grain. Not Sumatran warangka, but Tegal upper-part of warangkas (without gandars -- pictures below).

My keris panjang's handle is made of (buffalo) horn too...

GANJAWULUNG

VVV 4th July 2009 01:35 PM

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Interesting,

Here is an anak alang with the ship made of rhino horn and
the simle hilt repaired.

Michael

Sajen 4th July 2009 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by VVV
Interesting,

Here is an anak alang with the ship made of rhino horn and
the simle hilt repaired.

Michael

Very unsual hilt-repair, never seen something like this before.

sajen

BluErf 5th July 2009 02:57 AM

I've seen repairs like this done in the peninsula. Yes, I have always found such repairs to result in unusual looks. :)

A. G. Maisey 5th July 2009 05:27 AM

I have not been following this thread, but I've just scanned through it and noticed my name.

Kai, I do not know anything much about this subject, and I do not like to speculate, or really, even to comment unless I can back up what I say, so I have said nothing about the keris form being discussed here.

Yes, I do have quite a few of these keris, they are not all straight, several are waved, they are not all without pamor, the blade styles vary from what is shown here through to distinctly Bugis and Javanese blades. One I have is the state execution keris of Brunei dating from 1842, and it is like a very slim Moro keris. Scabbard styles vary from the typical Peninsula ones shown here to Bugis, Jawa, and unidentified.

I am inclined to think that this long blade style was probably pretty widely spread throughout S.E. Asia.

ganjawulung 17th March 2010 02:06 AM

Good Match or Not?
 
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Dear All,
I try to match this old sumatran 'pendokok' to a jawa demam hilt recently. Are they a good match, or not, if I put this composition to a Riau keris like this? I know there are some sumatran experts around here. Would be grateful to hear your comment...

GANJAWULUNG

karset 17th March 2010 06:56 AM

once upon the time in Aceh
 
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1895 aceh. Maharaja syahbandar,,?.
(image belong to KTLV)

semar 17th March 2010 10:07 AM

bahari keris
 
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one of my bahari keris for compare


regards semar

ganjawulung 17th March 2010 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by karset
1895 aceh. Maharaja syahbandar,,?.
(image belong to KTLV)

Thanks a lot Karset,
Good example to notice. Although not clear enough, the hilt doesn't seem to be a tapak kuda type ...

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Originally Posted by semar
one of my bahari keris for compare
regards semar

Thanks, Semar for the beautiful example.

GANJAWULUNG


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