2

Paint !
 

Paint . :D

The thread is turning into an oddball.. ahem! unique pieces.. :D
BluErf, the one with the gap under the hilt is a one off,.. wow! a full face under there..

Ok, here's mine.. an albino horn hilt with a black horn cup (pendokok).

Albino horn! :eek: For a minute there I thought it was some kind of mother-of-pearl.....

WoW!

I covert thy black horn pendoko!!! :D :p

StradLike Chatoyant
 

Keris with wooden-pendhok and "the strad"...

GANJAWULUNG

The Wooden Pendhok
 

And imageS of the wooden pendhok, philisium wood, made by Mas Min from Solo

GANJAWULUNG

John Denver had a fine appreciation of beautiful wood too.

Puthut and Kupu Tarung?
 

Not sure, if this image picturing a Puthut and Kupu Tarung pamor...

GANJAWULUNG

for thee who could not afford silverware...
:shrug:

Rare Solo hilt from kayu cendana.

Solo?

As in "Surakarta" ?

Taken without proof from "Regam Hulu Keris" from Suhartono Rahardjo, pic. 19. :shrug:

Hi Sajen,

First look, I thought it was an off Surakarta hilt form, looking at the base carvings. Normally what I see is the naga near the top, while most part, still retaining the tunggak semi form. pictures of smilies:
wink: ;)
big grin: :D
hmmm: :rolleyes:

Thanks Sajen, I see what you mean. However, although there is some similarity between your hilt and the ones shown in Ragam Hulu, there are, to my eye, significant differences.

#19 in Ragam Hulu is stylistically Central Jawa, and I'd be happy to accept Surakarta pending evidence, #20 in Ragam Hulu I do not see as stylistically Central Jawa, to my eye, more North Coast/Madura, and I would want some evidence before I'd accept it as Surakarta.

Your hilt is in my opinion, not stylistically Central Jawa, and does bear a number of characteristics that we are accustomed to seeing in Madura/ North Coast hilts. I tend towards a Madura origin for this hilt.

I must admit, I sometimes wonder at the attributions in Ragam Hulu. A lot of them I can agree with beyond question, but others I feel that the author has given the place of acquisition, rather the the place of origin.

For example, hilts # 17, 18, 19 20 are all naga motifs.

#17 I am able to accept as Surakarta beyond question --- I've seen old examples, I've seen drawings in Surakarta pattern books, several tukang jejeran I know recognise this as a Surakarta form.

However, with #18 and #19 the only similar examples I've seen have been very recent Madura. With #20, I have never seen an example, either old or recent.

#18 and #19 I would accept as Surakarta on face value, and then look for evidence, because of the cecekan and the planar form, but #20 has no cecekan, no planar form, and stylistically just cannot be aligned to a Central Javanese form or motif.

What we need to remember is this:- a jejeran does not usually stand alone, it is a part of an ensemble; to mate these jejeran with wrongkos, we need to ask who, when, where, why and what sort of wrongko.

I said "usually".

PBX caused a number of very oddball hilts to be produced as stand-alone works of art. We need to accept these as Surakarta, simply because they were produced to the order of the ruler, but my belief is that only the ruler, whether actual or symbolic, has the prerogative to designate a form as belonging to his kingdom. Freddie Suwanka cannot just produce some unusual hilts in Solo and then call them Surakarta jejeran.

Nope.

Only the boss can do that.

So, if we come across unusual hilts with a designation of Surakarta, I would want to see the original in a royal collection before I'd accept it as Surakarta.

These are my standards, and others may have different standards, to which, they are of course, entitled.

Hello Alam and Alan,

have to agree that my hilt is different since it have no patra in down but a tumpal motif. I incline like Alan that the motifs shows more north coast or Madura origin. My view inside the book have been to cursory.
And guwaya note in an other thread already that you can't take this book as a reference book.

I would just like to remind everyone that the title of this particular thread is "Pictures ONLY". ;) :)

...........................................
 

...............................

Point taken David, and I agree that I, for one, have moved outside the parameters.

May I suggest that from this point this thread becomes strictly pictures only?

With no text, there can be no comment on existing text that accompanies the pictures.

Pictures Only
 

I agree ; I started this thread as a VISUAL feast only . :rolleyes:

Let us continue in the way it was intended .

Let the observers draw their own conclusions in private . :cool:

Yes, i agree, though i must remark to Semar's last posting....oh my! :)

hit

welkom in my house
 

my corridor

welkom in my house
 

my staircase

welkom in my house
 

my livingroom

my bedroom
 

sorry I,m A keris Junkie

welkom in my last room
 

the end

...oh my... :)

arjuna

What no bathroom photos??

WOW!!! :)

What ??
No keris pictures ??

Wow !! :rolleyes:

Special request for close-up pics of the tajongs pls! :)

No :shrug:

..

One more