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fennec 25th September 2025 01:21 AM

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Concerning this model I cant find something very algerian here...
I mean, close style but not same. Never gems on algerian guards (sometimes a bit of coral on quillon tips, but thats it), and not as much on a handle.
I really dont know whats is that sword, if its actually italian, it could be a good way to understand inspirations... But still have to determind an age, because if it is something that is sometimes hard to accept for us europeans (even for me...) is that algerian (or north afrian, and widely the world..) could also have inspired such models, by the "legend" of algerian pirates at this era throught europe, or even the willing to have a sword like those tooken from algerian shipman, as the one of Tromp, De Ruyter, etc.

TVV 25th September 2025 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by fennec (Post 299863)
Hi mate, and sorry again for the time to answer (dont hesitate to send me an email in case someday you want to ask me something "important", sometimes I'm more reactiv...lol)

Well, it could be, I mean, at first look I would say that, and I was about, but actually I have serious doubt. The only thing that would made it moroccan for me is the origin of the blade, but even those ones where mount on algerian nimcha (trading, or tooken during battles). The hole on the pommel (I know I know, that could look funny as a factor of algerian origin, but this is very reccurent) and the guard lead me more to an algerian one.
Compare your sword to those ones. First picture, that was upper, you see that nimcha, for most of people, this could be a moroccan one, if we had no scabbard. Hopefully it is, and those models are good to proof that those geometry (handle, but also blade shape) was also common in algeria.

When looking back at the sword I showed, if you look at the band under the guard, it has floral motives of a style we find on koummya scabbards, hence my Moroccan attribution.

I also would not rely on a scabbard for attribution, as scabbards were replaced more frequently than hilts.


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