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Henk 23rd December 2006 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by VVV
Maybe it was made as a special order for a Dutch soldier?

Yes Michael, that is very good possible. Or it was "a special offer for you my friend. No keris but a special offer for little money" :D

asomotif 29th December 2006 12:14 PM

Hello,

I have an indonesian spear with this triangular shape point.
Looks a lot like this knife, but longer and of course not with a square tang, but a round one.
I will post some pictures once I have made them.

As for this dagger, the markings and square tang are not very javanese or ethnic. But the forging looks very ethnic.
Nice dagger anyway regardless the history.

Best wishes for 2007

Willem

Tim Simmons 30th December 2006 09:30 AM

Not a bayonet
 
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looking at this thread again has made me examine this dagger more closely. Okay it is African, but many of the Mahdist weapons were modeled on Persian forms. When I first post a picture of this a member said they had a Persian example. I wonder if these all relate to common origin? Looking at the blade there is a round bar tang forged from the forte as in the drawing. I am now of the opinion that this is not a converted bayonet. I do not think the guard is important in relation to the blade. To me there seems clear links in form and decorative methods that are more than coincidental. Any opinions?

asomotif 2nd January 2007 04:17 PM

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Dear All,

Here are the pictures of the spear I have.
Open for comments.

Alam Shah 2nd January 2007 10:21 PM

Asomotif,

Your tombak does looks like a sangkuh, with a well-defined metuk.
The spear mounting looks proper, from my untrained eyes. :)

asomotif 3rd January 2007 08:31 AM

Thank you for the information.
The spearmounting is indeed firm and must be the original one.
Best regards,
Willem


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