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Ian 17th February 2017 06:23 AM

Gavin:

That's an interesting sword. The hilt is in the Ayutthaya style, but the hilt:blade ratio is still greater than 0.3 by my measurements of the pic. It's interesting to see the lattice design also on this Siamese sword. That design does not appear in any of my references of Thai silverware, so it seems that this Chinese form may have been quite widely used.

The hilt of our mystery sword is obviously not from Ayutthaya, but there are similarities in the scabbard to the sword you show.

Ian

ausjulius 19th February 2017 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercenary
Henk, Kubur thanks!
What are the earliest accounts about dha we know?
May be it is Japanese tachi? :shrug:

there was in this time large numbers of both europeans and japanee living in both burma and various kingdoms in thailand and there is dah from this time with japanese style fittings. tsuba. ect a. also japanese produced quantities for export of blades sold in south east asia and china.
additionally the japanese made court sword handles for sale to the dutch. mostly of copper or silver but with japanese style decorations.
i believe there was even chinese made handles sold in poland/lithuanian in the 16th century.

the whole "samurai sword" thing in south east asia well predates ww2.. there is examples of 16th century swords used in the philipines . thailand and java with japanese blades.
europeans were no different .. if something looks interesting people will buy it and use it .. just like the sri lankan kastane swords taken to europe in that time.

Jim McDougall 19th February 2017 05:38 AM

Well noted Ausjulius,
The sword hilts fashioned in Japanese style in those alloys were termed 'shakudo' as described in Aylward (1945). I do believe that Chinese craftsmen were also brought into Polish workshops, I think Lvov, but need to find the reference (perhaps Ostrolski). Absolutely right, the European fascination with weapons exotica was prevalent in 17th and 18th centuries via the trade networks of the East Indies companies.

Gavin Nugent 20th February 2017 02:01 PM

An image worth noting in this link;

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...39&postcount=4

Most swords were kept within the Royal House so perhaps by design it could predate the ruler... artist licence or a good effort as showing what it was in the day???

Gavin


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