Fantastic example, so nice !

Good research Willem!

I've seen one for sale a while ago, and it was listed as blunderbuss from Aceh!
It had no ratan, but the same inlay on the barrel as this one!

If I knew what I know now thanks to you, I would have taken it at that time...
:-(

I think it's not easy to study colonial blunderbusses. As there was a lot of import/export!
But I know these blunderbusses were manufactured in Banjarmasin and Negara. I don't know how about other regions or indonesian islands, as I digged only this deep in Borneo matters.... (maybe other collectors of other specific area's can highlight something about the use/manufacturing of blunderbusses in other area's).

The text described below I have translated from J.C.J. Smits, "Gedenkboek Bronbeek".
This text will explain why (in my eyes) it's impossible to have a good study on these colonial blunderbusses as they all look the same or have similarities as others, which were trophees taken in other regions:..........................


In times when dr. Salomon Muller visited the former Banjarmasin state (in 1836), an amount of 100 Banjarese solely were concerned with the manufacturing of distinct weapon types.
"They make rifles", he said, "pistols-, soldiers- and shotguns, damascened sabers, swords and kerisses, in one word, all types of hand weapons."
These swords were partly made of indegenous steel, and partly of European steel.
The firearms that the Banjarese used in the war of 1859-1863, consisted of "lila's" (bigger and smaller blunderbusses) and guns of different shapes, mostly pan- but also percussion rifles.
MANY OF THE WEAPONS MADE IN NEGARA WERE EXPORTED. THIS PROBABLY EXPLAINES WHY THE RIFLES CONQUERED ON SUMATRAN EASTCOAST IN 1872 HAVE THESE HUGE SIMILARITY OF THOSE CONQUERED FROM THE DAJAKS.

ALSO THE WEAPONS CONQUERED ON NIAS ARE AS GOOD AS THE SAME AS THE ONE CONQUERED FROM THE DAJAKS.


Any other views on this subject are mostly welcome!
Rg
Maurice

To make it a bit more complexer :-)

In the book "Indonesian Ornamental Design", you can find similar swastika symbols and line ornaments (just as on the barrel and on Erik's Banjarmasin sword).
On page 325, the most upper image, on Javanese copper items...:eek: :D

But looking further in the same book I think we got the answer of these motifs on page 395:
These motifs are described here as: "Variations on the banji (key-and-hook or swastika) design. The occurence of this design is an example of Chinese influence in Indonesian ornamental design."

Also on page 396 we find "examples of various Chinese Japanese, Indian and Indonesian key-and-hook designs."

Here two images I scanned from the book on page 395, which come the closest to the motifs on the blunderbuss barrel and Erik's sword.
For those who don't have the book....

Exactly Similar ornement found in a other blunderbuss
 

I Had the suprise today to see the same ornement on one second blunderbuss who seems to be the same model but still with his fintlock.

So should be from the same local gunmaker ..

Hi
I had the luck last week to find a similar model to this 012655 and again with the same design on the barrel I will post more pictures to show it.

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When reading a bit in one of the juynbollen, i came across a balinese knife with these bandji-ornaments. According Juynboll, who calls this motif also "bandji", these bandji's exist out of more swastika's motifs. Sometimes so abstractly that we even can't see the clear swastika anymore.
Ps. Balinese knife can be viewed at the Leiden database, nr. 466/2


Maurice

Conclusion! We can't label these bandji ornaments at a certain area. They show up all over the indonesian archipellago!

Maurice

other blunderbuss, lock stamp 1814 with a lion

Max

Yes similar motifs on the barrel.
Thank you for those photos.
Any marks on the wood ?
Regards
Cerjak

Hello Cerjak,
No there are no marks on the wood. I always though it was a atjeh blunderbuss. It was said to me by the former owner. Your thread weathen my prespective, also in historical view. I have read the discusion with much interrest. Thanks.
Kindly regards

I have to agree with this conclusion, you will not place exact origin on any of these weapons based upon the bandji patterns on the gun barrels. This is a standard design throughout Indonesia seen in textiles and architectural features. The word "bandja" is taken from the Hokkiên dialect of Chinese and literally means swastika. It has Hindu/Buddhist significance, though this does not necessarily mean that the owners of these weapons were Hindu or Buddhist. The peoples of Indonesia have always been inclusionary people and have adopted both Hindu and Islamic symbolism in a syncretic manner along with the original animistic traditions that existed before these influences entered the archipelago.
I think Michael was on to something in regards to origin early on noting the circular rattan wrap on the OP's gun that i have only seen on Dayak weapons.

Thank you for the explanation of the word "Bandja" David! That explains a lot!
I agree the "katon evok's" (woven ratan knots) point out of the Borneo direction.
But on most of the blunderbusses you don't find these kind of knots, even if they are from Borneo. And than it will be a lot more difficult to nail down the origine.

Here two blunderbusses, from the Bronbeek museum collection and now on display because of the 150 years jubilee.

Both taken right out of the Aceh war.

Aceh Warrior
 

Two pictures with similar Blunserbuss.
May be someone have better pictures ?

Achenese blunderbuss
 

Here's the Achenese blunderbuss in my collection.

Here is my blunderbuss. tower lock flintlock

That is a nice one Willem!
You've robbed it out of the museum?

Please share some images of the upperside of the barrel. I would love to see how it's decorated!

Maurice

Hi Willem ,

At last you have find a very nice one more like the second one I have post here. Same Tower flintlock and carved butt stock
Congretulation nice find !

Cerjak

Thank you Cerjak and Maurice
I was very happy too with this find.
The barrel was rusty when I bought it, and after a bit of cleaning the inlay became visible. Not to mention the twisted barrel structure.

here are 2 pictures of the inlay. not very unusual inlay. But in a good condition considering the age.
I will try to make some more pictures soon.

Best regards,
Willem

Hi all , ı read hacı sadraci on butt it arabic but not Türk :)

[QUOTE=Cerjak]still need help to translate or ID the marks .
I hope it will solved....[/QU
ı read '' haci sedat tahir '' but after words not familiar :)

[QUOTE=archer burak]Dear Archer,

Please could you let me know from where are you reading those words and what it means : word or name ?
Best

Cerjak

Aceh warriors with blunderbuss
 

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